From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 net-next 2/5] net: Introduce a new MII time stamping interface.
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 13:59:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181007205906.3h7fpyxdhc24o6lc@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181007195400.GA25883@lunn.ch>
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 09:54:00PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> Sure, but things have moved on since then.
If you have a specific suggestion on how to better implement this,
please tell us what it is.
> I can think of three obvious use cases where this does not work:
>
> 1) phylink, not phdev. We have been pushing some MAC drivers towards
> phylink, especially those which support >1Gbp.
If a phylink device appears that wants time stamping, can't we add the
call to register_mii_timestamper()?
> 2) When an SFP is connected to the MAC, not a copper PHY. The class of
> device you are adding a driver for will work just as well for an SFP
> as for a copper PHY. The SERDES interface remains the same,
> independent of if a copper PHY is used, or a SFP. But an SFP does not
> have an instance of a phydv.
Well, as I said before in v1, CONFIG_NETWORK_PHY_TIMESTAMPING depends
on phylib, plain and simple, and expanding beyond phylib is not within
the scope of the this series.
> 3) Firmware controlled PHYs. phylib/phylink is not used, the MAC turns
> all ethtool calls into RPCs to the firmware. I've no numbers about
> this, but i have the feeling this is becoming more popular. It does
> however tend to be high end devices, and those are more likely to have
> timestamping in the MAC. I suppose they could also offload
> tomestamping to the firmware, in which case, they might want to make
> use of this new API.
Any MAC with private PHY stuff (that doesn't use phylib) can implement
SO_TIMESTAMPING directly, as if it were a MAC.
Thanks,
Richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-07 20:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-07 17:38 [PATCH V2 net-next 2/5] net: Introduce a new MII time stamping interface Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 18:27 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 19:06 ` Florian Fainelli
2018-10-07 19:15 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 19:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 20:59 ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2018-10-07 21:07 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 21:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 21:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 21:20 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 4:39 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 2:04 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 15:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-08 15:28 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 15:36 ` Richard Cochran
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