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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 net-next 2/5] net: Introduce a new MII time stamping interface.
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 23:14:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181007211405.GD25883@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181007205906.3h7fpyxdhc24o6lc@localhost>

On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 01:59:06PM -0700, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 09:54:00PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > Sure, but things have moved on since then.
> 
> If you have a specific suggestion on how to better implement this,
> please tell us what it is.
>   
> > I can think of three obvious use cases where this does not work:
> > 
> > 1) phylink, not phdev. We have been pushing some MAC drivers towards
> > phylink, especially those which support >1Gbp.
> 
> If a phylink device appears that wants time stamping, can't we add the
> call to register_mii_timestamper()?

Hi Richard

The problem is you depend on skbuf->dev->phydev. phydev will be NULL.
net_device does not currently have a phylink member. Even if it did,
you end up add more and more tests looking every place a
mii_timestamper could be placed.
  
> > 2) When an SFP is connected to the MAC, not a copper PHY. The class of
> > device you are adding a driver for will work just as well for an SFP
> > as for a copper PHY. The SERDES interface remains the same,
> > independent of if a copper PHY is used, or a SFP. But an SFP does not
> > have an instance of a phydv.
> 
> Well, as I said before in v1, CONFIG_NETWORK_PHY_TIMESTAMPING depends
> on phylib, plain and simple, and expanding beyond phylib is not within
> the scope of the this series.

True. But we also should be forward looking, to make sure we are not
heading into a dead end.

I'm currently thinking register_mii_timestamper() should take a netdev
argument, and the net_device structure should gain a struct
mii_timestamper.

But we have to look at the lifetime problems. A phydev does not know
what netdev it is associated to until phy_connect() is called. It is
at that point you can call register_mii_timestamper().

   Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-07 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-07 17:38 [PATCH V2 net-next 2/5] net: Introduce a new MII time stamping interface Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 18:27 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 19:06   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-10-07 19:15   ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 19:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 20:59       ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 21:07         ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-07 21:21           ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-07 21:14         ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2018-10-07 21:20           ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08  4:39             ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08  2:04       ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 15:07         ` Andrew Lunn
2018-10-08 15:28           ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-08 15:36             ` Richard Cochran

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