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From: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Tim.Bird@sony.com, Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	sboyd@kernel.org, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	kunit-dev@googlegroups.com,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-u
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:36:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190514183618.GC109557@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uHqtSF_sazJTbFL+xmQJRk4iwukCKZHoDHhsKkLXk=ECQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 02:05:05PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:04 AM Brendan Higgins
> <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 04:44:51PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 01:33:44PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 02:12:40PM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> > > > > However, the reply is incorrect.  Kselftest in-kernel tests (which
> > > > > is the context here) can be configured as built in instead of as
> > > > > a module, and built in a UML kernel.  The UML kernel can boot,
> > > > > running the in-kernel tests before UML attempts to invoke the
> > > > > init process.
> > > >
> > > > Um, Citation needed?
> > > >
> > > > I don't see any evidence for this in the kselftest documentation, nor
> > > > do I see any evidence of this in the kselftest Makefiles.
> > > >
> > > > There exists test modules in the kernel that run before the init
> > > > scripts run --- but that's not strictly speaking part of kselftests,
> > > > and do not have any kind of infrastructure.  As noted, the
> > > > kselftests_harness header file fundamentally assumes that you are
> > > > running test code in userspace.
> > >
> > > Yeah I really like the "no userspace required at all" design of kunit,
> > > while still collecting results in a well-defined way (unless the current
> > > self-test that just run when you load the module, with maybe some
> > > kselftest ad-hoc wrapper around to collect the results).
> > >
> > > What I want to do long-term is to run these kernel unit tests as part of
> > > the build-testing, most likely in gitlab (sooner or later, for drm.git
> >
> > Totally! This is part of the reason I have been insisting on a minimum
> > of UML compatibility for all unit tests. If you can suffiently constrain
> > the environment that is required for tests to run in, it makes it much
> > easier not only for a human to run your tests, but it also makes it a
> > lot easier for an automated service to be able to run your tests.
> >
> > I actually have a prototype presubmit already working on my
> > "stable/non-upstream" branch. You can checkout what presubmit results
> > look like here[1][2].
> 
> ug gerrit :-)

Yeah, yeah, I know, but it is a lot easier for me to get a project set
up here using Gerrit, when we already use that for a lot of other
projects.

Also, Gerrit has gotten a lot better over the last two years or so. Two
years ago, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. It's not so bad
anymore, at least if you are used to using a web UI to review code.

> > > only ofc). So that people get their pull requests (and patch series, we
> > > have some ideas to tie this into patchwork) automatically tested for this
> >
> > Might that be Snowpatch[3]? I talked to Russell, the creator of Snowpatch,
> > and he seemed pretty open to collaboration.
> >
> > Before I heard about Snowpatch, I had an intern write a translation
> > layer that made Prow (the presubmit service that I used in the prototype
> > above) work with LKML[4].
> 
> There's about 3-4 forks/clones of patchwork. snowpatch is one, we have
> a different one on freedesktop.org. It's a bit a mess :-/

Oh, I didn't realize that. I found your patchwork instance here[5], but
do you have a place where I can see the changes you have added to
support presubmit?

> > I am not married to either approach, but I think between the two of
> > them, most of the initial legwork has been done to make presubmit on
> > LKML a reality.
> 
> We do have presubmit CI working already with our freedesktop.org
> patchwork. The missing glue is just tying that into gitlab CI somehow
> (since we want to unify build testing more and make it easier for
> contributors to adjust things).

I checked out a couple of your projects on your patchwork instance: AMD
X.Org drivers, DRI devel, and Wayland. I saw the tab you added for
tests, but none of them actually had any test results. Can you point me
at one that does?

Cheers!

[5] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/

> > > super basic stuff.
> >
> > I am really excited to hear back on what you think!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > [1] https://kunit-review.googlesource.com/c/linux/+/1509/10#message-7bfa40efb132e15c8388755c273837559911425c
> > [2] https://kunit-review.googlesource.com/c/linux/+/1509/10#message-a6784496eafff442ac98fb068bf1a0f36ee73509
> > [3] https://developer.ibm.com/open/projects/snowpatch/
> > [4] https://kunit.googlesource.com/prow-lkml/
> > _______________________________________________
> > dri-devel mailing list
> > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-14 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-01 23:01 [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
     [not found]   ` <20190501230126.229218-4-brendanhiggins-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03  1:26     ` shuah
2019-05-03  4:37       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] kunit: test: add kunit_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:00   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:25     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:18       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  1:50   ` shuah
2019-05-03  5:48     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] kbuild: enable building KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10  3:03   ` Masahiro Yamada
     [not found]     ` <CAK7LNAQ+SRMn8UFjW1dZv_TrL0qjD2v2S=rXgtUpiA-urr1DDA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10 10:27       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 10:30         ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:33           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:58   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 20:30     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  1:27   ` shuah
     [not found]     ` <d4934565-9b41-880e-3bbe-984224b50fac-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03  5:18       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] kunit: test: add support for test abort Brendan Higgins
     [not found]   ` <20190501230126.229218-9-brendanhiggins-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03  3:14     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-03  6:48       ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]         ` <CAFd5g47hxAd=+72xbPJbWPdZCXRXmtLpsGhUh=zc7MSwfcaGJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03 12:33           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-06  8:48             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] kunit: test: add tests for kunit " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] kunit: test: add test managed resource tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:34   ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] kunit: tool: add Python wrappers for running KUnit tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:02   ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:07     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 21:16       ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]         ` <a49c5088-a821-210c-66de-f422536f5b01-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-02 23:45           ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]             ` <CAFd5g44iWRchQKdJYtjRtPY6e-6e0eXpKXXsx5Ooi6sWE474KA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03  1:45               ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-03  5:36                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 18:59                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                     ` <052fa196-4ea9-8384-79b7-fe6bacc0ee82-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-03 23:14                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:42                         ` Greg KH
     [not found]                         ` <CAFd5g47aY-CL+d7DfiyTidY4aAVY+eg1TM1UJ4nYqKSfHOi-0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-06  0:19                           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-06 17:43                             ` Kees Cook
2019-05-06 21:42                               ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-06 21:39                             ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]                               ` <CAFd5g46=ZU58uJ=Qhs3soBzJjzJKJFY0_uzZ7fe1CxPfJioNOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-07 19:13                                 ` Tim.Bird-7U/KSKJipcs
2019-05-03  6:41             ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] kunit: defconfig: add defconfigs for building " Brendan Higgins
     [not found] ` <20190501230126.229218-1-brendanhiggins-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-01 23:01   ` [PATCH v2 14/17] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
     [not found]     ` <20190501230126.229218-15-brendanhiggins-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09  5:08       ` Randy Dunlap
2019-05-09 17:38         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01   ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03 14:38     ` shuah
2019-05-06  9:18       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-01 23:01   ` [PATCH v2 16/17] kernel/sysctl-test: Add null pointer test for sysctl.c:proc_dointvec() Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 11:03     ` Greg KH
2019-05-02 18:14       ` Tim.Bird
2019-05-02 18:45         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  6:42           ` Greg KH
2019-05-03 23:41             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-04 10:40               ` Greg KH
2019-05-01 23:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] MAINTAINERS: add proc sysctl KUnit test to PROC SYSCTL section Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Greg KH
2019-05-02 11:05   ` Greg KH
2019-05-03  0:41     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-02 14:04   ` shuah
2019-05-03  0:44     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-03  3:18 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-07  3:14 ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]   ` <54940124-50df-16ec-1a32-ad794ee05da7-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-07  8:01     ` Greg KH
2019-05-07 15:23       ` shuah
2019-05-09  1:01         ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]       ` <20190507080119.GB28121-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-07 17:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-08 19:17           ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]           ` <20190507172256.GB5900-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09  0:58             ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]               ` <4d963cdc-1cbb-35a3-292c-552f865ed1f7-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09  1:44                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:18                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:22               ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-09  0:43         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09  1:58           ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-09  2:13             ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]               ` <580e092f-fa4e-eedc-9e9a-a57dd085f0a6-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09  3:20                 ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                   ` <20190509032017.GA29703-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 11:52                     ` Knut Omang
     [not found]                       ` <7fd35df81c06f6eb319223a22e7b93f29926edb9.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 13:35                         ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                           ` <20190509133551.GD29703-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 14:48                             ` Knut Omang
2019-05-09 17:00                             ` Tim.Bird-7U/KSKJipcs
2019-05-09 17:42                               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-09 18:12                               ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                 ` <875c546d-9713-bb59-47e4-77a1d2c69a6d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 21:42                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                     ` <20190509214233.GA20877-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 22:20                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <b09ba170-229b-fde4-3e9a-e50d6ab4c1b5-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 23:30                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                             ` <20190509233043.GC20877-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-09 23:40                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                 ` <8914afef-1e66-e6e3-f891-5855768d3018-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10  4:47                                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:18                                                 ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                                   ` <6d6e91ec-33d3-830b-4895-4d7a20ba7d45-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10  5:48                                                     ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10  8:12                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-10 10:23                                                         ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAFd5g47Fvafwgh15JNfxSBRf5qqG2z+V+XGAB2cJtNnHFTiFfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10 12:12                                                             ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 20:54                                                               ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 22:18                                                                 ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                                                   ` <ccec4818-1b9d-2554-e0e4-433eba659c8e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-11  6:17                                                                     ` Knut Omang
2019-05-14  6:39                                                                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:59                                                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                                             ` <8abaf5f2-dd33-98d0-7b34-b57de7fe7c8b-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-11  6:43                                                               ` Knut Omang
     [not found]                                                                 ` <a3362d96a6d95d852753739384ded814f5269aac.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-14  8:00                                                                   ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAKMK7uFd1xUx8u3xWLwifVSq4OEnMO4S-m0hESe68UzONXnMFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10 11:36                                                           ` Knut Omang
2019-05-10 16:17                                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <3faa022b-0b70-0375-aa6d-12ea83a2671f-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10 22:13                                                       ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14  8:38                                                         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-15  0:14                                                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                                             ` <5ff098a9-9424-901c-9017-d4492e306528-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-15  0:26                                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-05-10 21:52                                         ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-14 20:54                                           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-10 21:12                                     ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                       ` <80c72e64-2665-bd51-f78c-97f50f9a53ba-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-11 17:33                                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-13 14:44                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14  6:04                                             ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]                                               ` <20190514060433.GA181462-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-14 12:05                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-14 18:36                                                   ` Brendan Higgins [this message]
2019-05-15  7:41                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-22 21:38                                                       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-23  8:40                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-05-15  0:26                                           ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-15  4:28                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10  5:11               ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                 ` <78e4d46e-6212-9871-51d6-dd2126f39d45-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-10 10:43                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-05-10 21:05                     ` Frank Rowand
2019-05-09 15:19 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-05-10 10:25   ` Brendan Higgins

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