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From: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	Brian Norris <briannorris@google.com>,
	Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <groeck@google.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Alexandru Stan <amstan@google.com>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] backlight: pwm_bl: compute brightness of LED linearly to human eye.
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 13:03:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190617200314.GT137143@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190617130150.GA21113@amd>

Hi Pavel,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 03:01:51PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > Certainly "linear" (this device will work more or less correctly if the
> > > userspace applies perceptual curves). Not sure about logarithmic since
> > > what is actually useful is something that is "perceptually linear"
> > > (logarithmic is merely a way to approximate that).
> > > 
> > > I do wonder about a compatible string like most-detailed to
> > > least-detailed description. This for a PWM with the auto-generated
> > > tables we'd see something like:
> > > 
> > > cie-1991,perceptual,non-linear
> > > 
> > > For something that is non-linear but we are not sure what its tables are
> > > we can offer just "non-linear".
> > 
> > Thanks for the feedback!
> > 
> > It seems clear that we want a string for the added flexibility. I can
> > work on a patch with the compatible string like description you
> > suggested and we can discuss in the review if we want to go with that
> > or prefer something else.
> 
> Compatible-like string seems overly complicated.

I see the merit in the sense that it allows to provide more precision
for if userspace wants/needs it, without requiring userspace to know all
possible (future) options. If userspace wants to keep things simple it
can just check for check for "s == 'non-linear'" and
"s.ends_with(',non-linear')"

In any case, I posted a first version of the patch:

https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1088760/

Maybe best to center the discussion there?

> > > Instead one valid value for the sysfs should be "unknown" and this be
> > > the default for drivers we have not analysed (this also makes it easy to
> > > introduce change here).
> > 
> > An "unknown" value sounds good, it allows userspace to just do what it
> > did/would hace done before this attribute existed.
> 
> What about simply not presenting the attribute when we don't have the
> information?

I'm open to either, I mentioned it earlier and Daniel seemed to prefer
the 'unknown' value so I went with it in the first version (it's also
slightly less code).

Cheers

Matthias

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-17 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-08 11:30 [PATCH v3 0/4] backlight: pwm_bl: support linear interpolation and brightness to human eye Enric Balletbo i Serra
2018-02-08 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] backlight: pwm_bl: linear interpolation between brightness-levels Enric Balletbo i Serra
2018-04-06 15:46   ` Daniel Thompson
2018-02-08 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] dt-bindings: pwm-backlight: add a num-interpolation-steps property Enric Balletbo i Serra
2018-02-18 22:49   ` Rob Herring
2018-02-08 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] backlight: pwm_bl: compute brightness of LED linearly to human eye Enric Balletbo i Serra
2018-04-06 15:51   ` Daniel Thompson
2019-06-07 22:19   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-08 21:02     ` Pavel Machek
2019-06-10 10:00       ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-10 20:39         ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-10 21:02           ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2019-06-10 21:54             ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-10 20:52       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-11 10:49         ` Daniel Thompson
2019-06-11 16:55           ` Brian Norris
2019-06-11 22:30             ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-12  9:54               ` Pavel Machek
2019-06-12 11:03               ` Daniel Thompson
2019-06-12 19:26                 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-12 19:47                   ` Daniel Thompson
2019-06-12 21:59                     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-06-17 13:01                   ` Pavel Machek
2019-06-17 20:03                     ` Matthias Kaehlcke [this message]
     [not found] ` <20180208113032.27810-1-enric.balletbo-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-08 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] dt-bindings: pwm-backlight: move brightness-levels to optional Enric Balletbo i Serra
2018-03-19 16:04 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] backlight: pwm_bl: support linear interpolation and brightness to human eye Enric Balletbo Serra
2018-03-20 11:22   ` Daniel Thompson
2018-03-20 12:13     ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2018-04-06 15:54       ` Daniel Thompson
2018-04-09  8:17 ` Lee Jones

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