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From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Luka Perkov <luka.perkov@sartura.hr>,
	Robert Marko <robert.marko@sartura.hr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 09:01:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220517090156.3fde5a8f@pc-20.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220514224002.vvmd43lnjkbsw2g3@skbuf>

Hi Vlad,

On Sat, 14 May 2022 22:40:03 +0000
Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 05:06:53PM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> > This tagging protocol is designed for the situation where the link
> > between the MAC and the Switch is designed such that the Destination
> > Port, which is usually embedded in some part of the Ethernet
> > Header, is sent out-of-band, and isn't present at all in the
> > Ethernet frame.
> > 
> > This can happen when the MAC and Switch are tightly integrated on an
> > SoC, as is the case with the Qualcomm IPQ4019 for example, where
> > the DSA tag is inserted directly into the DMA descriptors. In that
> > case, the MAC driver is responsible for sending the tag to the
> > switch using the out-of-band medium. To do so, the MAC driver needs
> > to have the information of the destination port for that skb.
> > 
> > This out-of-band tagging protocol is using the very beggining of
> > the skb headroom to store the tag. The drawback of this approch is
> > that the headroom isn't initialized upon allocating it, therefore
> > we have a chance that the garbage data that lies there at
> > allocation time actually ressembles a valid oob tag. This is only
> > problematic if we are sending/receiving traffic on the master port,
> > which isn't a valid DSA use-case from the beggining. When dealing
> > from traffic to/from a slave port, then the oob tag will be
> > initialized properly by the tagger or the mac driver through the
> > use of the dsa_oob_tag_push() call.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
> > ---  
> 
> Why put the DSA pseudo-header at skb->head rather than push it using
> skb_push()? I thought you were going to check for the presence of a
> DSA header using something like skb->mac_len == ETH_HLEN + tag len,
> but right now it sounds like treating garbage in the headroom as a
> valid DSA tag is indeed a potential problem. If you can't sort that
> out using information from the header offsets alone, maybe an skb
> extension is required?

Indeed, I thought of that, the main reason is that pushing/poping in
itself is not enough, you also have to move the whole mac_header to
leave room for the tag, and then re-set it in it's original location.
There's nothing wrong with this, but it looked a bit cumbersome just to
insert a dummy tag that gets removed rightaway. Does that make sense ?

But yes I would really like to get a way to know wether the tag is
there or not, I'll dig a bit more to see if I can find a way to get
this info from the various skb offsets in a reliable way.

Thanks,

Maxime

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-17  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-14 15:06 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] net: ipqess: introduce Qualcomm IPQESS driver Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] net: ipqess: introduce the " Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 17:18   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-05-17  7:09     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 20:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-17  7:11     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-16  2:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-05-17  7:13     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17 21:03   ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 16:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-17  7:06     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 22:40   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-17  7:01     ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2022-05-19 14:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-19 17:11         ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-19 17:34           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-16 19:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-17  6:53     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17 20:58       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] net: ipqess: Add out-of-band DSA tagging support Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: dt-bindings: Introduce the Qualcomm IPQESS Ethernet controller Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-18  0:52   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] ARM: dts: qcom: ipq4019: Add description for the " Maxime Chevallier

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