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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
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	"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Frank Rowand" <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Alvin Šipraga" <alsi@bang-olufsen.dk>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net 0/2] Make phylink and DSA wait for PHY driver that defers probe
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 15:25:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220519152529.s2amgob3enfxc6w6@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YoZfFDdSDLUtn42S@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 04:15:32PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 02:59:36PM +0000, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> > 
> > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 02:23:51AM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > There is a very different approach, which might be simpler.
> > > 
> > > We know polling will always work. And it should be possible to
> > > transition between polling and interrupt at any point, so long as the
> > > phylock is held. So if you get -EPROBE_DEFFER during probe, mark some
> > > state in phydev that there should be an irq, but it is not around yet.
> > > When the phy is started, and phylib starts polling, look for the state
> > > and try getting the IRQ again. If successful, swap to interrupts, if
> > > not, keep polling. Maybe after 60 seconds of polling and trying, give
> > > up trying to find the irq and stick with polling.
> > 
> > That doesn't sound like something that I'd backport to stable kernels.
> > Letting the PHY driver dynamically switch from poll to IRQ mode risks
> > racing with phylink's workqueue, and generally speaking, phylink doesn't
> > seem to be built around the idea that "bool poll" can change after
> > phylink_start().
> 
> I think you're confused. Andrew is merely talking about phylib's
> polling, not phylink's.
> 
> Phylink's polling is only ever used in two circumstances:
> 
> 1. In fixed-link mode where we have an interruptless GPIO.
> 2. In in-band mode when the PCS specifies it needs to be polled.
> 
> This is not used to poll ethernet PHYs - ethernet PHY polling is
> handled entirely by phylib itself.

You're right, I would have probably figured that out if I actually tried
to implement what Andrew is proposing and not just superficially looking
at the code. I guess I'll try that now and see where that leads me to.
The only thing that remains in that case is fw_devlink blocking PHY
probing for lack of a supplier.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-19 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 23:36 [RFC PATCH net 0/2] Make phylink and DSA wait for PHY driver that defers probe Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-13 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH net 1/2] net: phylink: allow PHY driver to defer probe when connecting via OF node Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-13 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH net 2/2] net: dsa: wait for PHY to defer probe Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-14  0:23 ` [RFC PATCH net 0/2] Make phylink and DSA wait for PHY driver that defers probe Andrew Lunn
2022-05-19 14:59   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-19 15:15     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-05-19 15:25       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-05-19 15:32     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-05-19 15:38       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-14  0:39 ` Saravana Kannan

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