From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, David Jander <david@protonic.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 2/7] dt-bindings: net: phy: add PoDL PSE property
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 16:44:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220823144437.GN10138@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwPaV2Frj+b++8hZ@lunn.ch>
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 09:34:47PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 01:45:34PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 02:01:04PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > > Add property to reference node representing a PoDL Power Sourcing Equipment.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
> > > ---
> > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml | 6 ++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > > index ed1415a4381f2..49c74e177c788 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > > @@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ properties:
> > > Mark the corresponding energy efficient ethernet mode as
> > > broken and request the ethernet to stop advertising it.
> > >
> > > + ieee802.3-podl-pse:
> > > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle
> > > + description:
> > > + Specifies a reference to a node representing a Power over Data Lines
> > > + Power Sourcing Equipment.
> >
> > Ah, here is the consumer.
> >
> > Why do you anything more than just a -supply property here for the
> > PoE/PoDL supply? The only reason I see is you happen to want a separate
> > driver for this and a separate node happens to be a convenient way to
> > instantiate drivers in Linux. Convince me otherwise.
>
> The regulator binding provides a lot of very useful properties, which
> look to do a good job describing the regulator part of a PoE/PeDL
> supplier side. What however is missing is the communication part, the
> power provider and the power consumer communicate with each other, via
> a serial protocol. They negotiate the supply of power, a sleep mode
> where power is reduced, but not removed, etc.
>
> So a Power Sourcing Equipment driver is very likely to have a
> regulator embedded in it, but its more than a regulator.
@Rob, is it enough to convince?
Regards,
Oleksij
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-23 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-19 12:01 [PATCH net-next v1 0/7] add generic PSE support Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/7] dt-bindings: net: pse-dt: add bindings for generic PSE controller Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-22 18:41 ` Rob Herring
2022-08-23 16:22 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/7] dt-bindings: net: phy: add PoDL PSE property Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-22 18:45 ` Rob Herring
2022-08-22 19:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-23 14:44 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/7] net: add framework to support Ethernet PSE and PDs devices Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/7] net: pse-pd: add generic PSE driver Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 20:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:00 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 21:32 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:10 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 5/7] net: mdiobus: fwnode_mdiobus_register_phy() rework error handling Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 6/7] net: mdiobus: search for PSE nodes by parsing PHY nodes Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 7/7] ethtool: add interface to interact with Ethernet Power Equipment Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 16:44 ` kernel test robot
2022-08-19 18:37 ` kernel test robot
2022-08-19 21:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:31 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-20 3:08 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-20 18:16 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-21 4:39 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-20 18:48 ` Andrew Lunn
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