From: Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org
Cc: agross@kernel.org, konrad.dybcio@linaro.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, danny@kdrag0n.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm845: correct dynamic power coefficients
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:26:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230118232640.qfyuy5n4x33yttup@builder.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBJHWfhXCGojZSvS_DM4+bJnQ9j1GwtE5_YYJFHq9cpRA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 06:02:29PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 at 19:28, Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 05:46:18PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >
> > Seems like using get_maintainer.pl would have saved you some trouble ;)
>
> The worst is that I used it but only checked names and not emails
> when I reused the list of the original patch :-(
>
:)
> >
> > > While stressing EAS on my dragonboard RB3, I have noticed that LITTLE cores
> > > where never selected as the most energy efficient CPU whatever the
> > > utilization level of waking task.
> > >
> > > energy model framework uses its cost field to estimate the energy with
> > > the formula:
> > >
> > > nrg = cost of the selected OPP * utilization / CPU's max capacity
> > >
> > > which ends up selecting the CPU with lowest cost / max capacity ration
> > > as long as the utilization fits in the OPP's capacity.
> > >
> > > If we compare the cost of a little OPP with similar capacity of a big OPP
> > > like :
> > > OPP(kHz) OPP capacity cost max capacity cost/max capacity
> > > LITTLE 1766400 407 351114 407 863
> > > big 1056000 408 520267 1024 508
> > >
> > > This can be interpreted as the LITTLE core consumes 70% more than big core
> > > for the same compute capacity.
> > >
> > > According to [1], LITTLE consumes 10% less than big core for Coremark
> > > benchmark at those OPPs. If we consider that everything else stays
> > > unchanged, the dynamic-power-coefficient of LITTLE core should be
> > > only 53% of the current value: 290 * 53% = 154
> > >
> > > Set the dynamic-power-coefficient of CPU0-3 to 154 to fix the energy model.
> > >
> >
> > This is sounds reasonable.
> >
Dmitry, what do you think about this?
> > But if the math was wrong for SDM845, I would assume that sm8150 and
> > sm8250 are wrong as well, as that's what 0e0a8e35d725 is based on. And
> > should I assume that patches for other platforms are off by 53% as well?
>
> I don't think that we can assume that there is an error and in
> particular the same 53% error for others.
>
> >
> > Can you help me understand how to arrive at this number? (Without
> > considering everything else stays unchanged, if needed).
>
> In order to do the full computation, we need the voltage of each OPP
> which I don't have as they are provided by the LUT at boot IIUC.
> Instead I have used the debugfs output of the energy model and
> compared the value of (perf_state->cost/cpu_max_capacity) with the
> energy and duration figures available in [1].
>
> In the case of SDM845, it was pretty easy to compare the OPPs of big
> and LITTLE because the duration and the perf result were the same for
> 2 OPPS so we should have :
>
> (little OPP(1766400)->cost / little max capacity (407)) / (big
> OPP(1056000)->cost / big max capacity(1024)) = little OPP(1766400)
> energy / big OPP(1056000) energy
>
> (little OPP(1766400)->cost / little max capacity (407)) / (big
> OPP(1056000)->cost / big max capacity(1024)) = 0.90
>
> but current output gives:
>
> (little OPP(1766400)->cost / little max capacity (407)) / (big
> OPP(1056000)->cost / big max capacity(1024)) = 1.70
>
> As we consider everything else constant, it can be simplified by:
>
> correct_little_dynamic-power-coefficient * const_A = 0.90
>
> Whereas we currently have
>
> current_little_dynamic-power-coefficient * const_A = 1.70
>
> and we ends up with
>
> correct_little_dynamic-power-coefficient = 0.90 / 1.70 *
> current_little_dynamic-power-coefficient = 154
>
> That being said, it can be simpler as the energy model provide the power figures
>
> little OPP(1766400)->power = 351114 uW
> big OPP(1056000)->power = 195991 uW
> ration = 1.79
>
> [1] results gives
> little OPP(1766400)->power = 193.281 mW
> big OPP(1056000)->power = 216.405 mW
> ratio = 0.89
>
> The ratios are a bit different and give a
> correct_little_dynamic-power-coefficient = 144 which is different
> than when using ->cost. This probably comes from rounding and which
> figures have been used to compute the model.
>
> If you have Voltage of OPP, the formula used in energy model is power
> (uW) = dynamic-power-coefficient * uV^2 * Freq (Mhz) so you can
> compute dynamic-power-coefficient for each OPPs. They should be close
> and then you will have to decide which one is the "best"
>
> I don't have access to sdm8150 or sdm8250 boards but you can use the
> same process to check that the energy model is aligned with the
> figures in [1]
>
> [1] https://github.com/kdrag0n/freqbench/tree/master/results
>
> Regards,
> Vincent
Thanks for the explanation Vincent!
Regards,
Bjorn
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bjorn
> >
> > > [1] https://github.com/kdrag0n/freqbench/tree/master/results/sdm845/main
> > >
> > > Fixes: 0e0a8e35d725 ("arm64: dts: qcom: sdm845: correct dynamic power coefficients")
> > > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > > ---
> > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845.dtsi | 8 ++++----
> > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845.dtsi
> > > index 65032b94b46d..869bdb9bce6e 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845.dtsi
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sdm845.dtsi
> > > @@ -198,7 +198,7 @@ CPU0: cpu@0 {
> > > reg = <0x0 0x0>;
> > > enable-method = "psci";
> > > capacity-dmips-mhz = <611>;
> > > - dynamic-power-coefficient = <290>;
> > > + dynamic-power-coefficient = <154>;
> > > qcom,freq-domain = <&cpufreq_hw 0>;
> > > operating-points-v2 = <&cpu0_opp_table>;
> > > interconnects = <&gladiator_noc MASTER_APPSS_PROC 3 &mem_noc SLAVE_EBI1 3>,
> > > @@ -222,7 +222,7 @@ CPU1: cpu@100 {
> > > reg = <0x0 0x100>;
> > > enable-method = "psci";
> > > capacity-dmips-mhz = <611>;
> > > - dynamic-power-coefficient = <290>;
> > > + dynamic-power-coefficient = <154>;
> > > qcom,freq-domain = <&cpufreq_hw 0>;
> > > operating-points-v2 = <&cpu0_opp_table>;
> > > interconnects = <&gladiator_noc MASTER_APPSS_PROC 3 &mem_noc SLAVE_EBI1 3>,
> > > @@ -243,7 +243,7 @@ CPU2: cpu@200 {
> > > reg = <0x0 0x200>;
> > > enable-method = "psci";
> > > capacity-dmips-mhz = <611>;
> > > - dynamic-power-coefficient = <290>;
> > > + dynamic-power-coefficient = <154>;
> > > qcom,freq-domain = <&cpufreq_hw 0>;
> > > operating-points-v2 = <&cpu0_opp_table>;
> > > interconnects = <&gladiator_noc MASTER_APPSS_PROC 3 &mem_noc SLAVE_EBI1 3>,
> > > @@ -264,7 +264,7 @@ CPU3: cpu@300 {
> > > reg = <0x0 0x300>;
> > > enable-method = "psci";
> > > capacity-dmips-mhz = <611>;
> > > - dynamic-power-coefficient = <290>;
> > > + dynamic-power-coefficient = <154>;
> > > qcom,freq-domain = <&cpufreq_hw 0>;
> > > operating-points-v2 = <&cpu0_opp_table>;
> > > interconnects = <&gladiator_noc MASTER_APPSS_PROC 3 &mem_noc SLAVE_EBI1 3>,
> > > --
> > > 2.34.1
> > >
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2023-01-06 16:46 [PATCH] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm845: correct dynamic power coefficients Vincent Guittot
2023-01-06 18:28 ` Bjorn Andersson
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