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From: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
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	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable.
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:02:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230314120254.76f8360c@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230313084059.GA11063@pengutronix.de>

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:40:59 +0100
Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:

> > But, as you point out, with Köry's/Richard's proposal, the MAC driver
> > will be bypassed when the selected timestamping layer is the PHY, and
> > that's a problem currently.
> > 
> > May I suggest the following? There was another RFC which proposed the
> > introduction of a netdev notifier when timestamping is turned on/off:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20220317225035.3475538-1-vladimir.oltean@nxp.com/
> >
> > If we have a notifier, then we can make switch drivers do things
> > differently. They can activate timestamping per se in the timestamping
> > NDO (which is only called when the MAC is the active timestamping layer),
> > and they can activate PTP traps in the netdev notifier (which is called
> > any time a timestamping status change takes place - the notifier info
> > should contain details about which net_device and timestamping layer
> > this is, for example).
> > 
> > It's just a proposal of how to create an alternative notification path
> > that doesn't disturb the goals of this patch set. 

I will take a look at your patch but indeed adding a timestamp notifier could
be a good idea.

> To make things even more complicated - I  have a project where the DSA master
> should be used for time stamping. Due to board specific limitations, we
> are forced to use FEC PHC instead of dsa KSZ switch PHC. So, it is not
> a choice between MAC and PHY, it is more the MAC before MAC and PHY.
> PTP sync in this case will have more jitter, but it still good enough
> for this project.
> Currently I use quick hack to do so, but mainlinamble solution working for
> most use cases will be nice.

In this case it is not a PHY/MAC PTP choice anymore but more a device
PTP choice which bring a lot more of complexity. Or maybe we could simply add a
"switch" timestamp layer later on. As Andrew said we will maybe increase the
number of timestamp layers in the future.

Regards,
Köry

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-14 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-08 13:59 [PATCH v3 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent
2023-03-08 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-03-08 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] net: Expose available time stamping layers to user space Köry Maincent
2023-03-08 22:54   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-08 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Köry Maincent
2023-03-08 15:28   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-10 14:41     ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-10 14:59       ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-03-10 15:32         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-03-08 18:26   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-08 23:03   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-10 10:48     ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-10 11:35       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-10 12:15         ` Michael Walle
2023-03-10 13:15           ` Horatiu Vultur
2023-03-10 13:34             ` Michael Walle
2023-03-10 14:04               ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-10 15:05                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-03-10 15:24                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-03-10 16:06               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-10 20:48                 ` Michael Walle
2023-03-10 16:44             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-13  8:17               ` Horatiu Vultur
2023-03-13  8:40               ` Oleksij Rempel
2023-03-14 11:02                 ` Köry Maincent [this message]
2023-03-16 15:09                 ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-17 15:21                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-17 19:07                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-17 19:43                       ` Max Georgiev
2023-03-30 12:38                         ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-30 16:26                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-31  5:05                             ` Max Georgiev
2023-03-31  5:07                               ` Max Georgiev
2023-04-02 17:12                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-03  9:27                             ` Köry Maincent
2023-03-18  3:38                     ` Richard Cochran
2023-03-18  4:03                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-18 11:54                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-24 10:25         ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-04-02 17:36           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-09  6:13   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-09 17:33   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-08 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] net: fix up drivers WRT phy time stamping Köry Maincent
2023-03-08 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] dt-bindings: net: phy: add timestamp preferred choice property Köry Maincent

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