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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR11MB5790.namprd11.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 71e06bea-b7a4-4065-b998-08db3b674559 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Apr 2023 15:04:53.3736 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: rV6YUKpfnPr7l2yyWPJn6D0+log+EmQSG7JrduIK9d1hEJQT4s0DxDr10OqiORuY1JLV8m8HaR7jsrb5lbYdeQ== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DS0PR11MB7457 X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.38.212.137, aer-opgw-5.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-5.cisco.com Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 10/04/2023 19:51, Daniel Walker (danielwa) wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 05:09:15PM +0000, Daniel Walker (danielwa) wrot= e: > >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 05:28:03PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > >>> On 07/04/2023 18:04, Daniel Walker (danielwa) wrote: > >>>> On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 09:12:34AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > >>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ > >>>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only > >>>>> > >>>>> Dual license. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> What are my choices here? I see this, > >>>> > >>>> # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause) > >>> > >>> Yes, the one suggested by the checkpatch. Did you run it? > >> =20 > >> I don't recall if I did or not. > >> > >>>> > >>>> Which appears to be what your suggesting. I also see this, > >>>> > >>>> # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 > >>>> > >>>> I'd rather use the later. > >>> > >>> Why? Bindings should be licensed under BSD, so what is the reason to > >>> make here exception? > >> > >> I'm sure I can re-license my submissions. I'd have to look into it. > >=20 > > I'm _not_ sure. >=20 >=20 > This is a new file - it did not exist in v1 - thus you had to write it. > If you wrote it, you (or your employer) hold all copyrights, so yes, you > (or your employer) can relicense it. >=20 > I cannot imagine the case why employer would not like to have dual > license here (it's beneficial to him, so employer would be acting > against himself), but if you need to convince him, you can just say, > that contributing to Open Source project means accepting the licenses in > that project. The license for new bindings in this project is (GPL-2.0 > or BSD-2), like pointed by checkpatch. Yes, my employer holds the copyright. However, corporations don't work in t= he way you imagine. There is no one "owner" to speak to about re-licensing. The pe= ople who determine the license is an army of lawyers, with an extensive approval process. What benefit does a BSD license hold for my employer over GPL v2 ? Here the licenses currently used by the bindings, 1 # SPDX-License-Identifier: BSD-2-Clause 1 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only) 1 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause */ 1 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-or-later) 3 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0+ OR X11) 4 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later 4 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT) 6 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0) 7 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-or-later OR BSD-2-Clause) 7 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later OR BSD-2-Clause 11 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+ 12 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0+ OR BSD-2-Clause) 12 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0+ OR MIT) 33 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only or BSD-2-Clause) 47 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause 56 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only or BSD-2-Clause 102 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only 350 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause 511 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 610 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause) 1570 # SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause) Can you explain why so many are allowed to use GPL v2 , but my company is n= ot allowed? Shouldn't these all be dual licensed if the project only allows du= al license? It's very likely that new bindings will be made by making a copy of other bindings, then make modifications. If my company copied bindings which are = GPL v2, then we are required to honor the license of the prior binding and that means we legally aren't allowed to relicense under BSD AFAIK. Also the documentation for the bindings here Documentation/devicetree/ changesets.rst dynamic-resolution-notes.rst index.rst kernel-api.rst of_unittest.rst overlay-notes.rst usage-model.rst all the rst files are GPL v2 and not dual license. Daniel=