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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
Cc: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Andrew Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Frank Binns" <frank.binns@imgtec.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/10] dt-bindings: gpu: Add PowerVR Series5 SGX GPUs
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 08:38:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207063802.GR5169@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231205104343.2e3c4105@aktux>

* Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info> [231205 09:43]:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 10:27:56 +0100
> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 05/12/2023 10:02, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
> > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 09:45:44 +0100
> > > Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > >>> Sure the clock nodes can be there for the child IP, but they won't do
> > >>> anything. And still need to be managed separately by the device driver if
> > >>> added.    
> > >>
> > >> So if OS does not have runtime PM, the bindings are wrong? Bindings
> > >> should not depend on some particular feature of some particular OS.  
> > > 
> > > Any user of the devicetree sees that there is a parent and the parent needs
> > > to be enabled by some mechanism.
> > > E.g. I2c devices do not specify the clocks of the parent (the i2c master)  

Yeah the interconnect target module needs to be enabled before the child
IP can be probed for any OS. That is unless the target module is left on
from the bootloader.

But like I said, I have no objection to also having the clocks for the
child SGX device here. I think two out of the tree SGX clocks are merged,
so one of the three clocks would repeat twice in the binding.

We do provide some of the clock aliases, like fck and ick, for the child
ip automatically by the ti-sysc interconnect target module. But likely we
don't want to clock name specific handling in the driver so best to
standardize on SGX specific clock names. That is if the clock properties
are not set optional.

> > If you use this analogy, then compare it with an I2C device which has
> > these clock inputs. Such device must have clocks in the bindings.
> > 
> I would see target-module = i2c master.
> 
> Well, if there is a variant of the i2c device which does not require
> external clocks and a variant which requires it, then clock can be
> optional.

Yes that sounds about right for an analogy :)

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-04 18:22 [PATCH RFC 00/10] Device tree support for Imagination Series5 GPU Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 01/10] dt-bindings: gpu: Add PowerVR Series5 SGX GPUs Andrew Davis
2023-12-05  6:57   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-05  8:18     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-05 13:29       ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-05 13:50         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-07  9:20           ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-07 10:33             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-15 13:33               ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-18  9:28                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-18 10:14                   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-18 10:54                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-19 17:19                       ` Andrew Davis
2023-12-21  9:02                         ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-21  8:58                       ` Maxime Ripard
2023-12-21 15:23                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-05  7:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-05  7:56     ` Tony Lindgren
2023-12-05  8:03       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-05  8:10         ` Tony Lindgren
2023-12-05  8:16           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-05  8:30             ` Tony Lindgren
2023-12-05  8:45               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-05  9:02                 ` Andreas Kemnade
2023-12-05  9:27                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-05  9:43                     ` Andreas Kemnade
2023-12-07  6:38                       ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2023-12-05  8:17   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-05 17:33     ` Andrew Davis
2023-12-05 18:04       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-06 16:02         ` Conor Dooley
2023-12-06 16:15           ` Andrew Davis
2023-12-06 22:02             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-06 21:43           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 02/10] ARM: dts: omap3: Add device tree entry for SGX GPU Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 03/10] ARM: dts: omap4: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 04/10] ARM: dts: omap5: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 05/10] ARM: dts: AM33xx: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 06/10] ARM: dts: AM437x: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 07/10] ARM: dts: DRA7xx: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 08/10] arm64: dts: ti: k3-am654-main: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 09/10] ARM: dts: sun6i: " Andrew Davis
2023-12-04 18:22 ` [PATCH RFC 10/10] MIPS: DTS: jz4780: " Andrew Davis

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