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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Krishna Chaitanya Chundru <quic_krichai@quicinc.com>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_vbadigan@quicinc.com, quic_ramkri@quicinc.com,
	quic_nitegupt@quicinc.com, quic_skananth@quicinc.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,qmp: Add PCIe qcom,refclk-always-on property
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:50:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207132032.GL2932@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXHDCNosx8PCUzao@hovoldconsulting.com>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 02:05:12PM +0100, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:42:52PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:51:09AM +0100, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:40:09PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > 
> > > > OK. How about, "qcom,broken-refclk"? This reflects the fact that the default
> > > > refclk operation is broken on this platform, so the OS should be prepared for
> > > > it (by keeping it always on).
> > > 
> > > Shouldn't that be
> > > 
> > > 	qcom,broken-clkreq
> > > 
> > > since its the CLKREQ# signal used to request REFCLK that is broken, not
> > > the REFCLK itself?
> > > 
> > 
> > Darn... You are right. I got carried away by the initial property name. Thanks
> > for spotting!
> 
> Thinking some more on this after hitting send: It may still be wrong
> with a 'broken-clkreq' property in the PHY instead of in the controller
> (or endpoint).
> 
> Could there not be other ways to handle a broken clkreq signal so that
> this really should be a decision made by the OS, for example, to disable
> L1 substates and clock PM?
> 

One has to weigh the power consumption between keeping refclk always on and
disabling L1SS. Chaitanya, can you measure power consumption in both cases?

> Simply leaving the refclk always on in the PHY seems like a bit of a
> hack and I'm not even sure that can be considered correct.
> 

I wouldn't agree it is a hack, even though it may sound like one. The option to
keep refclk always on in the PHY is precisely there for usecase like this.

- Mani

> Having a property that maps directly to that behaviour has rightly been
> rejected, but it seems that simply renaming the flag but keeping it in
> the PHY may still not be the right thing to do here.
> 
> Johan

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27 12:13 [PATCH v3 0/3] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: Add support to keep refclk always on Krishna chaitanya chundru
2023-11-27 12:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,qmp: Add PCIe qcom,refclk-always-on property Krishna chaitanya chundru
2023-11-28  8:56   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-28  9:19     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2023-12-01  6:07       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-01  8:01         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-01 11:10           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-01 12:10             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-01 12:30               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-01 13:25                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-01 21:29                   ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-12-06 13:07                     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07 10:53                       ` Konrad Dybcio
2023-12-06 13:10                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-06 17:50                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-07  9:51                     ` Johan Hovold
2023-12-07 10:12                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-12-07 13:05                         ` Johan Hovold
2023-12-07 13:20                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2023-12-07 13:36                             ` Johan Hovold
2023-12-11 12:32                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-11-27 12:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: Add endpoint refclk control register offset Krishna chaitanya chundru
2023-11-27 12:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] phy: qcom-qmp-pcie: Add support for keeping refclk always on Krishna chaitanya chundru
2023-12-01  6:09   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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