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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
Cc: "Ceclan Dumitru" <mitrutzceclan@gmail.com>,
	linus.walleij@linaro.org, brgl@bgdev.pl, andy@kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Michael Walle" <michael@walle.cc>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"ChiaEn Wu" <chiaen_wu@richtek.com>,
	"Niklas Schnelle" <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Leonard Göhrs" <l.goehrs@pengutronix.de>,
	"Mike Looijmans" <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>,
	"Haibo Chen" <haibo.chen@nxp.com>,
	"Hugo Villeneuve" <hvilleneuve@dimonoff.com>,
	"Ceclan Dumitru" <dumitru.ceclan@analog.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/2] dt-bindings: adc: add AD7173
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:38:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231220123814.66e013e8@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMknhBEzM202_pu=yYcmuC2Tz1HNv2zC=iy77q09hryfcGQ=Zw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 19:00:32 -0600
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:50 AM Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 19:03:28 +0200
> > Ceclan Dumitru <mitrutzceclan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > On 12/14/23 18:12, David Lechner wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 1:43 PM Ceclan Dumitru <mitrutzceclan@gmail.com> wrote:  
> > > >> On 12/12/23 17:09, David Lechner wrote:  
> > > >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 11:45 AM Dumitru Ceclan <mitrutzceclan@gmail.com> wrote:  
> > >  
> > > >> ...
> > > >>  
> > > >>>> +  interrupts:
> > > >>>> +    maxItems: 1  
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Shouldn't this be 2? The datasheet says there is a "Data Output Ready"
> > > >>> signal on the DOUT/RDY pin and an "Error Output" on the SYNC/ERROR
> > > >>> pin. Although I could see how RDY could be considered part of the SPI
> > > >>> bus. In any case, a description explaining what the interrupt is would
> > > >>> be useful.
> > > >>>  
> > > >>
> > > >> I do not see how there could be 2 interrupts. DOUT/RDY is used as an
> > > >> interrupt when waiting for a conversion to finalize.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sync and Error are sepparate pins, Sync(if enabled) works only as an
> > > >> input that resets the modulator and the digital filter.  
> > > >
> > > > I only looked at the AD7172-2 datasheet and pin 15 is labeled
> > > > SYNC/ERROR. Maybe they are separate pins on other chips?  
> > >
> > > Yep, sorry, missed that. All other supported models have them separate.  
> >
> >  
> > > >  
> > > >>
> > > >> Error can be configured as input, output or ERROR output (OR between all
> > > >> internal error sources).
> > > >>
> > > >> Would this be alright
> > > >>   interrupts:
> > > >>
> > > >>     description: Conversion completion interrupt.
> > > >>                  Pin is shared with SPI DOUT.
> > > >>     maxItems: 1  
> > > >
> > > > Since ERROR is an output, I would expect it to be an interrupt. The
> > > > RDY output, on the other hand, would be wired to a SPI controller with
> > > > the SPI_READY feature (I use the Linux flag name here because I'm not
> > > > aware of a corresponding devicetree flag). So I don't think the RDY
> > > > signal would be an interrupt.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > Error does not have the purpose to be an interrupt. The only interrupt
> > > used from this chip is the one from the DOUT/~RDY pin. Sure, it is wired
> > > to the SPI controller, but when you can't also receive interrupts on
> > > that very same CPU pin an issue arises. So that pin is also wired to
> > > another GPIO with interrupt support.  
> >
> > You've lost me.  It's a pin that has a state change when an error condition
> > occurs.  Why not an interrupt?  Doesn't matter that the driver doesn't
> > use this functionality. dt-bindings should be as comprehensive as possible.
> > Given it's a multipurpose pin you'd also want to support it as a gpio to be
> > complete alongside the other GPIOs.
> >  
> > >
> > > This is the same way that ad4130.yaml is written for example (with the
> > > exception that ad4130 supports configuring where the interrupt is routed).
> > >
> > > In regards to SPI_READY _BITUL(7) /* slave pulls low to pause */: the
> > > ad_sigma_delta framework (if it can be called that) is written to expect
> > > a pin interrupt, not to use SPI_READY controller feature.  
> >
> > SPI_READY is supported by only a couple of controllers. I'm not even that
> > sure exactly how it is defined and whether that lines up with this usecase.
> > From some old asci art. https://lore.kernel.org/all/1456747459-8559-1-git-send-email-linux@rempel-privat.de/
> >
> > Flow control: Ready Sequence
> > Master CS   |-----1\_______________________|
> > Slave  FC   |--------2\____________________|
> > DATA        |-----------3\_________________|
> >
> > So you set master and then wait for a flow control pin (the ready signal) before
> > you can actually talk to the device.
> >
> > Here we are indicating data is ready to be be read out.
> >
> > So I don't 'think' SPI_READY applies.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >  
> 
> I'm not arguing that SPI_READY applies in this particular case, but
> FWIW it does seem to me like...
> 
> 1) SPI_READY could be implemented in any SPI driver using a GPIO
> interrupt (similar to how we already have GPIO CS)
> 2) In cases where the SPI controller does have actual hardware support
> for SPI_READY and the ADC chip A) uses CS to trigger a conversion and
> B) has a "busy" signal that goes low when the conversion is complete,
> then the SPI_READY feature could be used to make reading sample data
> more efficient by avoiding any CPU intervention between CS assertion
> and starting the data xfer due to waiting for the conversion to
> complete either by waiting for an interrupt or sleeping for a fixed
> amount of time.

Agreed that SPI_READY is possible if an SPI controller uses GPIOs for
CS and that signal.  If not a GPIO for CS then the SPI_READY should
also be hardware managed.

I could potentially be adapted to this sort of case if conditions
like the CS being active before the ready is set is taking into account.

This is a bit like SPI in general - far too many things that could
be built and no particular standards for them.

Jonathan



      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-20 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12 10:44 [PATCH v8 1/2] dt-bindings: adc: add AD7173 Dumitru Ceclan
2023-12-12 10:44 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] iio: adc: ad7173: add AD7173 driver Dumitru Ceclan
2023-12-13 14:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-14 11:02     ` Ceclan Dumitru
2023-12-14 12:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-14 12:57     ` Ceclan Dumitru
2023-12-14 14:47       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-17 13:31         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-12 15:09 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] dt-bindings: adc: add AD7173 David Lechner
2023-12-14 12:43   ` Ceclan Dumitru
2023-12-14 16:12     ` David Lechner
2023-12-14 17:03       ` Ceclan Dumitru
2023-12-17 13:50         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-18  1:00           ` David Lechner
2023-12-20 12:38             ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]

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