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From: "Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: media: renesas,vin: Add binding for V4M
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:20:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240624092029.GB3655345@ragnatech.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdUaWMiQ_wrmX14uwkeU1D_55ehmJD8+GZ4eydWfw4Mi-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Conor,

On 2024-06-21 09:21:24 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Niklas,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 7:22 PM Niklas Söderlund
> <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se> wrote:
> > On 2024-06-20 17:27:00 +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > > +      - items:
> > > > +          - enum:
> > > >                - renesas,vin-r8a779g0 # R-Car V4H
> > > > +              - renesas,vin-r8a779h0 # R-Car V4M
> > > > +          - const: renesas,rcar-gen4-vin # Generic R-Car Gen4
> > > >
> > > > If so I can see that working as I could still fix any issues that come
> > > > from differences between V4H and V4M if needed. If so do you think it
> > > > best to add this in two different patches? One to add the
> > > > renesas,rcar-gen4-vin fallback (which will also need DTS updates to fix
> > > > warnings from exciting users of V4H not listing the gen4 fallback) and
> > > > one to add V4M?
> > >
> > >
> > > I would just do:
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/renesas,vin.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/renesas,vin.yaml
> > > index 5539d0f8e74d..22bbad42fc03 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/renesas,vin.yaml
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/renesas,vin.yaml
> > > @@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ properties:
> > >                - renesas,vin-r8a77995 # R-Car D3
> > >                - renesas,vin-r8a779a0 # R-Car V3U
> > >                - renesas,vin-r8a779g0 # R-Car V4H
> > > +      - items:
> > > +          - const: renesas,vin-r8a779h0 # R-Car V4L2
> > > +          - const: renesas,vin-r8a779g0 # R-Car V4H
> >
> > @Geert: What do you think about this? This would be a first use-case for
> > compatibles crossing SoC DTS files that I know of. I'm a bit uneasy
> > going down this road.
> 
> Me too ;-)
> 
> > Would this not also effect the existing users of renesas,vin-r8a779g0
> > which would now need something similar to what you propose below with a
> > list of SoC compatibles and a fallback.
> >
> > >
> > >    reg:
> > >      maxItems: 1
> > >
> > > Which requires no driver or dts changes. That could become:
> > >       - items:
> > >           - enum:
> > >               - renesas,vin-r8a779h0 # R-Car V4L2
> > >               - renesas,vin-r8a779i0 # R-Car R4P17
> > >           - const: renesas,vin-r8a779g0 # R-Car V4H
> >
> > FWIW, on Gen2 where fallback es where useful compared to Gen3 we did
> > this with "renesas,rcar-gen2-vin".
> 
> We do know there are differences (albeit probably small) among the R-Car
> Gen4 VIN implementations, so I am reluctant to add a family-specific
> compatible value.  Typically we only use a family-specific compatible
> value if the IP cores are known (or better, assumed ;-) to be identical.
> 
> And sometimes our assumptions turn out to be wrong...
> See slides 25-33 (last two for the numbers) of my talk at ER2019
> https://embedded-recipes.org/2019/talks/herd-your-socs-become-a-matchmaker/

Do Geert's slides help to explain the R-Car perspective on why a 
family-specific fallback compatible might not be desirable, and why the 
SoC specific one is proposed? 

-- 
Kind Regards,
Niklas Söderlund

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-24  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-19 15:35 [PATCH v3 0/2] rcar-vin: Add support for R-Car V4M Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-19 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: media: renesas,vin: Add binding for V4M Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-19 17:33   ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-19 18:56     ` Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-19 20:43       ` Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-20 16:27         ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-20 17:22           ` Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-21  7:21             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-06-24  9:20               ` Niklas Söderlund [this message]
2024-06-24 10:36                 ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-24 12:50                   ` Niklas Söderlund
2024-06-24 13:17                     ` Conor Dooley
2024-06-19 15:35 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] media: rcar-vin: Add support for R-Car V4M Niklas Söderlund

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