From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: daire.mcnamara@microchip.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, conor.dooley@microchip.com,
lpieralisi@kernel.org, kw@linux.com, robh@kernel.org,
bhelgaas@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org,
conor+dt@kernel.org, ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com,
kevin.xie@starfivetech.com, Frank Li <Frank.Li@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/3] PCI: microchip: Fix outbound address translation tables
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 11:07:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250116170722.GA589558@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250116-debatable-hazelnut-6501986373fa@spud>
[+cc Frank, original patch at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20241011140043.1250030-2-daire.mcnamara@microchip.com]
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 04:46:19PM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 09:42:53AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 06:13:10PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:41PM +0100, daire.mcnamara@microchip.com wrote:
> > > > From: Daire McNamara <daire.mcnamara@microchip.com>
> > > >
> > > > On Microchip PolarFire SoC (MPFS) the PCIe Root Port can be behind one of
> > > > three general-purpose Fabric Interface Controller (FIC) buses that
> > > > encapsulate an AXI-M interface. That FIC is responsible for managing
> > > > the translations of the upper 32-bits of the AXI-M address. On MPFS,
> > > > the Root Port driver needs to take account of that outbound address
> > > > translation done by the parent FIC bus before setting up its own
> > > > outbound address translation tables. In all cases on MPFS,
> > > > the remaining outbound address translation tables are 32-bit only.
> > > >
> > > > Limit the outbound address translation tables to 32-bit only.
> > >
> > > I don't quite understand what this is saying. It seems like the code
> > > keeps only the low 32 bits of a PCI address and throws away any
> > > address bits above the low 32.
> > >
> > > If that's what the FIC does, I wouldn't describe the FIC as
> > > "translating the upper 32 bits" since it sounds like the translation
> > > is just truncation.
> > >
> > > I guess it must be more complicated than that? I assume you can still
> > > reach BARs that have PCI addresses above 4GB using CPU loads/stores?
> > >
> > > The apertures through the host bridge for MMIO access are described by
> > > DT ranges properties, so this must be something that can't be
> > > described that way?
> >
> > Ping? I'd really like to understand this before the v6.14 merge
> > window opens on Sunday.
>
> Daire's been having some issues getting onto the corporate VPN to send
> his reply, I've pasted it below on his behalf:
>
> There are 3 Fabric Inter Connect (FIC) buses on PolarFire SoC - each of
> these FIC buses contain an AXI master bus and are 64-bits wide. These
> AXI-Masters (each with an individual 64-bit AXI base address – for example
> FIC1’s AXI Master has a base address of 0x2000000000) are connected to
> general purpose FPGA logic. This FPGA logic is, in turn, connected to a
> 2nd 32-bit AXI master which is attached to the PCIe block in RootPort mode.
> Conceptually, on the other side of this configurable logic, there is a
> 32-bit bus to a hard PCIe rootport. So, again conceptually, outbound address
> translation looks like this:
>
> Processor Complex à FIC (64-bit AXI-M) à Configurable Logic à 32-bit AXI-M à PCIe Rootport
> (This how it came to me from Daire, I think the á is meant to
> be an arrow)
>
> This allows a designer two broad choices:
>
> Choice of FIC (effectively choice of AXI bus)
> Ability to offset the AXI address of any peripherals they add in the
> Fabric.
>
> So, for the case of an outbound AXI address, from the processors’ point
> of view (or Linux’ point of view if you prefer), the processor uses a
> 64-bit AXI address, then – in a very general way of viewing the process
> and thinking only about accessing the PCIe device – the FPGA logic can
> be configured to adjust that AXI-M address to any arbitrary “address”
> before it passes that new “address” to the Root Port over a second 32-bit
> AXI bus (the main constraint is that the FPGA logic can only use a 32-bit
> address on that AXI-M interface to the Root Port).
>
> To manage this complexity, Microchip have design rules for customers
> building their FPGA logic where we strongly recommend that they only
> interact with the upper 32 bits of the 64-bit address in the FPGA logic
> and pass the lower 32 bits through (unmodified) to the AXI-M side of the
> PCIe Root Port. This allows them to “move” a 64-bit AXI-M window for their
> PCIe Root Port (as viewed by the processor) for their particular design –
> if they need to - so that they can also access any other AXI-M windows
> associated with any other peripherals they might add to their design.
>
> In practise, so far, all customers, and our own internal boards have all
> started by using one of two major reference designs from us (one using FIC1
> where the AXI-M window destined for the PCIe Root Port starts at 0x2000000000
> and one using FIC2 where its AXI-M window, again destined for the PCIe Root
> Port starts at 0x3000000000).
Is there something special about this that cannot be described by a DT
'ranges' property? This sounds conceptually similar to Frank's nice
picture at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20241119-pci_fixup_addr-v8-2-c4bfa5193288@nxp.com
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-16 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-11 14:00 [PATCH v10 0/3] Fix address translations on MPFS PCIe controller daire.mcnamara
2024-10-11 14:00 ` [PATCH v10 1/3] PCI: microchip: Fix outbound address translation tables daire.mcnamara
2025-01-15 0:13 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-16 15:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-16 16:46 ` Conor Dooley
2025-01-16 17:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-01-16 17:45 ` Conor Dooley
2025-01-16 18:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-17 10:53 ` Conor Dooley
2025-01-17 17:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-17 21:27 ` Frank Li
2024-10-11 14:00 ` [PATCH v10 2/3] PCI: microchip: Fix inbound " daire.mcnamara
2024-10-11 14:00 ` [PATCH v10 3/3] dt-bindings: PCI: microchip,pcie-host: allow dma-noncoherent daire.mcnamara
2024-11-13 11:50 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] Fix address translations on MPFS PCIe controller Conor Dooley
2025-01-14 17:16 ` Conor Dooley
2025-01-14 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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