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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev, hch@infradead.org,
	"Claire Chang" <tientzu@chromium.org>,
	linux-devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jörg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	graf@amazon.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] content: Add VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB to negotiate use of SWIOTLB bounce buffers
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:54:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402105137-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250402112410.2086892-2-dwmw2@infradead.org>

On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 12:04:45PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> 
> Device-tree bindings for `restricted-dma-pool` were defined in 2021, which
> allow devices to be restricted to a given SWIOTLB pool instead of allowing
> DMA to arbitrary system memory:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210624155526.2775863-1-tientzu@chromium.org/
> 
> This facility was not specific to virtio-mmio, but does apply to it. No
> attempt was made to ensure backward-compatibility for virtio-mmio devices.
> 
> Define a VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB feature which allows the device and driver to
> agree on the use of the SWIOTLB, if present. This enables the device to
> refuse to operate further if the driver does not support the SWIOTLB
> requirement expressed in the device-tree.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> ---
>  content.tex | 12 ++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index c17ffa6..63d075f 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -773,6 +773,9 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>  Currently these device-independent feature bits are defined:
>  
>  \begin{description}
> +  \item[VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB (27)] This feature indicates that the device
> +  transport provides a memory region which is to be used for bounce
> +  buffering, rather than permitting direct memory access to system memory.
>    \item[VIRTIO_F_INDIRECT_DESC (28)] Negotiating this feature indicates
>    that the driver can use descriptors with the VIRTQ_DESC_F_INDIRECT
>    flag set, as described in \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio
> @@ -807,6 +810,9 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>    the driver. When clear, this overrides any platform-specific description of
>    whether device access is limited or translated in any way, e.g.
>    whether an IOMMU may be present.
> +  If a the device transport provides a software IOTLB bounce buffer,
> +  addresses within its range are not subject to the requirements of
> +  VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM as they are considered to be ``on-device''.

I don't get this part. the system designers currently have a choice
whether to have these controlled by VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM or not.
with PCI, for example, BAR on the same device is naturally not
behind an iommu.


>    \item[VIRTIO_F_RING_PACKED(34)] This feature indicates
>    support for the packed virtqueue layout as described in
>    \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Packed Virtqueues}~\nameref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Packed Virtqueues}.
> @@ -885,6 +891,10 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>  VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM is not offered, then a driver MUST pass only physical
>  addresses to the device.
>  
> +A driver SHOULD accept VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB if it is offered, and it MUST
> +then pass only addresses within the Software IOTLB bounce buffer to the
> +device.
> +
>  A driver SHOULD accept VIRTIO_F_RING_PACKED if it is offered.
>  
>  A driver SHOULD accept VIRTIO_F_ORDER_PLATFORM if it is offered.
> @@ -921,6 +931,8 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>  A device MAY fail to operate further if VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM is not
>  accepted.
>  
> +A device MAY fail to operate further if VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB is not accepted.
> +
>  If VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER has been negotiated, a device MUST use
>  buffers in the same order in which they have been available.
>  
> -- 
> 2.49.0
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-02 11:04 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Add Software IOTLB bounce buffer support David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] content: Add VIRTIO_F_SWIOTLB to negotiate use of SWIOTLB bounce buffers David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-04-02 15:12     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 15:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 15:47         ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 15:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 16:16             ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 16:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 17:10                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:29                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  7:37                     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:39                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  7:43                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:44                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  8:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04  6:29                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04  6:39                             ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04  6:44                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04  6:45                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  7:41                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:31                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:45                     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  8:06                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:13   ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03  7:24     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:31       ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-04 10:27         ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:54       ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  8:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  8:22           ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  8:34             ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03  8:57               ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-06  6:23                 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03 13:19             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  7:28     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-03  8:06         ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04  6:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04  7:50             ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04  8:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04  8:16                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04  8:32                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04  9:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 10:15                       ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-04 10:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04 11:15                           ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-06 18:28                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-06 18:47                               ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07  7:30                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07  7:54                               ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07  9:05                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 10:09                                   ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 14:06                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07 14:59                                       ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07 12:14                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07 12:46                               ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07  7:26                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07  7:23                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07  7:19                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04  8:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-04  9:39                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-07  7:34                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-07  9:40                     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] transport-mmio: Document restricted-dma-pool SWIOTLB bounce buffer David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 11:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] transport-pci: Add SWIOTLB bounce buffer capability David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 14:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-02 15:21     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-03  7:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  7:36     ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03  7:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  8:12         ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03  8:16           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03  8:37             ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-04-03  8:44     ` David Woodhouse

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