* [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE
@ 2025-04-16 14:26 Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver Frieder Schrempf
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From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-16 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo, Srinivas Kandagatla
Cc: Frieder Schrempf, Arnd Bergmann, Fabio Estevam, Frank Li,
Geert Uytterhoeven, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Pengutronix Kernel Team,
Rafał Miłecki, Shengjiu Wang, Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang,
Yoshihiro Shimoda
From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
This depends on [1] for the support of the Edgelock Secure Enclave firmware
driver.
There are at least two ways to access the OTP fuses on i.MX93:
(1) through the FSB (fuseblock) registers
(2) through the ELE S400 API
There currently is a NVMEM driver imx-ocotp-ele.c that (despite its name)
implements (1). As the FSB only provides limited access to the OTP registers
(read only) it's not sufficient for all use-cases.
It seems like imx-ocotp-ele.c was intended to be extended later to implement
(1) and (2) deciding on a per-fuse-register basis which of both access methods
should be used.
This has some downsides:
* the driver gets convoluted and complex
* the driver decides which OTP registers are accessed in which way and therefore
mixes read-only and read/write access
Therefore I implemented a simple driver that uses the ELE S400 API only, as the
FSB access (1) doesn't provide any benefits except for that it doesn't depend
on the ELE firmware being available. This is used by us downstream.
For the upstream solution I would like to have some feedback on how to move
on:
1. switch imx-ocotp-ele.c to use ELE API exclusively
-> this will create a hard dependency on the ELE firmware/driver being available
2. extend imx-ocotp-ele.c to use FSB and ELE API
-> make the driver use ELE API for all registers if ELE firmware/driver is available
3. create separate drivers as done in this RFC
Thanks!
[1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-kernel/cover/20250409-imx-se-if-v16-0-5394e5f3417e@nxp.com/
Frieder Schrempf (5):
firmware: imx: ele: Add API functions for OCOTP fuse access
nvmem: Add i.MX OCOTP fuse driver using ELE S400 API
arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver
arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for OCOTP S400 NVMEM driver
arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Add DMA memory region for ELE firmware
.../dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi | 16 ++
arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi | 11 +
drivers/firmware/imx/ele_base_msg.c | 122 +++++++++++
drivers/firmware/imx/ele_base_msg.h | 8 +
drivers/nvmem/Kconfig | 11 +
drivers/nvmem/Makefile | 2 +
drivers/nvmem/imx-ocotp-s400.c | 195 ++++++++++++++++++
include/linux/firmware/imx/se_api.h | 3 +
8 files changed, 368 insertions(+)
create mode 100644 drivers/nvmem/imx-ocotp-s400.c
--
2.49.0
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* [RFC PATCH 3/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver
2025-04-16 14:26 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Frieder Schrempf
@ 2025-04-16 14:26 ` Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for OCOTP S400 NVMEM driver Frieder Schrempf
` (3 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-16 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo
Cc: Frieder Schrempf, Fabio Estevam, Frank Li, Haibo Chen,
Pengutronix Kernel Team, Shengjiu Wang, Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang
From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
This adds the node for the ELE firmware driver that provides the
S400 API.
Signed-off-by: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
---
arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi | 6 ++++++
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
index 64cd0776b43d..122519648d1b 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
@@ -222,6 +222,12 @@ cm33: remoteproc-cm33 {
status = "disabled";
};
+ hsm0: secure-enclave {
+ compatible = "fsl,imx93-se-ele-hsm";
+ mbox-names = "tx", "rx";
+ mboxes = <&s4muap 0 0>, <&s4muap 1 0>;
+ };
+
mqs1: mqs1 {
compatible = "fsl,imx93-mqs";
gpr = <&aonmix_ns_gpr>;
--
2.49.0
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* [RFC PATCH 4/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for OCOTP S400 NVMEM driver
2025-04-16 14:26 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver Frieder Schrempf
@ 2025-04-16 14:26 ` Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Add DMA memory region for ELE firmware Frieder Schrempf
` (2 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-16 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo
Cc: Frieder Schrempf, Carlos Song, Fabio Estevam, Frank Li,
Haibo Chen, Pengutronix Kernel Team, Shengjiu Wang, Shenwei Wang,
Xu Yang
From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
This adds a node for the OCOTP NVMEM driver that uses the
ELE S400 API to access the fuse registers.
Signed-off-by: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
---
arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi | 5 +++++
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
index 122519648d1b..12463cf6c214 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi
@@ -228,6 +228,11 @@ hsm0: secure-enclave {
mboxes = <&s4muap 0 0>, <&s4muap 1 0>;
};
+ ocotp-s400 {
+ compatible = "fsl,imx93-ocotp-s400";
+ secure-enclave = <&hsm0>;
+ };
+
mqs1: mqs1 {
compatible = "fsl,imx93-mqs";
gpr = <&aonmix_ns_gpr>;
--
2.49.0
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* [RFC PATCH 5/5] arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Add DMA memory region for ELE firmware
2025-04-16 14:26 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for OCOTP S400 NVMEM driver Frieder Schrempf
@ 2025-04-16 14:26 ` Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Peng Fan
2025-04-22 6:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
4 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-16 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo
Cc: Frieder Schrempf, Fabio Estevam, Pengutronix Kernel Team
From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
The Edgelock Enclave firmware requires a small 1 MiB memory pool.
Reserving this pool makes the ELE firmware driver probe and allows
us to use the S400 API.
Signed-off-by: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
---
.../boot/dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi | 16 ++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi
index 119a16207059..44d98cf812bf 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi
@@ -24,6 +24,18 @@ chosen {
stdout-path = &lpuart1;
};
+ reserved-memory {
+ #address-cells = <2>;
+ #size-cells = <2>;
+ ranges;
+
+ ele_reserved: memory@90000000 {
+ compatible = "shared-dma-pool";
+ reg = <0 0x90000000 0 0x100000>;
+ no-map;
+ };
+ };
+
reg_usdhc2_vcc: regulator-usdhc2-vcc {
compatible = "regulator-fixed";
pinctrl-names = "default";
@@ -116,6 +128,10 @@ &gpio4 {
"GPIO_B_0", "CARRIER_PWR_EN";
};
+&hsm0 {
+ memory-region = <&ele_reserved>;
+};
+
&lpi2c1 {
pinctrl-names = "default";
pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_lpi2c1>;
--
2.49.0
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* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE
2025-04-16 14:26 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Frieder Schrempf
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2025-04-16 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Add DMA memory region for ELE firmware Frieder Schrempf
@ 2025-04-22 6:30 ` Peng Fan
2025-04-22 7:33 ` Frieder Schrempf
2025-04-22 6:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
4 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peng Fan @ 2025-04-22 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frieder Schrempf
Cc: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo, Srinivas Kandagatla, Frieder Schrempf,
Arnd Bergmann, Fabio Estevam, Frank Li, Geert Uytterhoeven,
Greg Kroah-Hartman, Pengutronix Kernel Team,
Rafał Miłecki, Shengjiu Wang, Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang,
Yoshihiro Shimoda
Hi Frieder,
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 04:26:19PM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
>From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
>
>This depends on [1] for the support of the Edgelock Secure Enclave firmware
>driver.
>
>There are at least two ways to access the OTP fuses on i.MX93:
>
>(1) through the FSB (fuseblock) registers
>(2) through the ELE S400 API
>
>There currently is a NVMEM driver imx-ocotp-ele.c that (despite its name)
>implements (1). As the FSB only provides limited access to the OTP registers
>(read only) it's not sufficient for all use-cases.
>
>It seems like imx-ocotp-ele.c was intended to be extended later to implement
>(1) and (2) deciding on a per-fuse-register basis which of both access methods
>should be used.
>
>This has some downsides:
>
>* the driver gets convoluted and complex
>* the driver decides which OTP registers are accessed in which way and therefore
> mixes read-only and read/write access
>
>Therefore I implemented a simple driver that uses the ELE S400 API only, as the
>FSB access (1) doesn't provide any benefits except for that it doesn't depend
>on the ELE firmware being available. This is used by us downstream.
>
>For the upstream solution I would like to have some feedback on how to move
>on:
>
>1. switch imx-ocotp-ele.c to use ELE API exclusively
> -> this will create a hard dependency on the ELE firmware/driver being available
>2. extend imx-ocotp-ele.c to use FSB and ELE API
> -> make the driver use ELE API for all registers if ELE firmware/driver is available
>3. create separate drivers as done in this RFC
Need to confirm ELE APIs supports all fuses. If yes, switching to using ELE API
exclusively should be ok, no need to mix FSB and ELE API. And drop the current
FSB usage
Thanks,
Peng.
>
>Thanks!
>
>[1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-kernel/cover/20250409-imx-se-if-v16-0-5394e5f3417e@nxp.com/
>
>Frieder Schrempf (5):
> firmware: imx: ele: Add API functions for OCOTP fuse access
> nvmem: Add i.MX OCOTP fuse driver using ELE S400 API
> arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for EdgeLock Enclave (ELE) firmware driver
> arm64: dts: imx93: Add node for OCOTP S400 NVMEM driver
> arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Add DMA memory region for ELE firmware
>
> .../dts/freescale/imx93-kontron-osm-s.dtsi | 16 ++
> arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/imx93.dtsi | 11 +
> drivers/firmware/imx/ele_base_msg.c | 122 +++++++++++
> drivers/firmware/imx/ele_base_msg.h | 8 +
> drivers/nvmem/Kconfig | 11 +
> drivers/nvmem/Makefile | 2 +
> drivers/nvmem/imx-ocotp-s400.c | 195 ++++++++++++++++++
> include/linux/firmware/imx/se_api.h | 3 +
> 8 files changed, 368 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 drivers/nvmem/imx-ocotp-s400.c
>
>--
>2.49.0
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* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE
2025-04-16 14:26 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Frieder Schrempf
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2025-04-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Peng Fan
@ 2025-04-22 6:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-04-22 7:37 ` Frieder Schrempf
4 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Arnd Bergmann @ 2025-04-22 6:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frieder Schrempf, Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel,
Conor Dooley, devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel,
Rob Herring, Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo, Srinivas Kandagatla
Cc: Frieder Schrempf, Fabio Estevam, Frank Li, Geert Uytterhoeven,
Greg Kroah-Hartman, Pengutronix Kernel Team,
Rafał Miłecki, Shengjiu Wang, Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang,
Yoshihiro Shimoda
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, at 16:26, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
> Therefore I implemented a simple driver that uses the ELE S400 API only, as the
> FSB access (1) doesn't provide any benefits except for that it doesn't depend
> on the ELE firmware being available. This is used by us downstream.
>
> For the upstream solution I would like to have some feedback on how to move
> on:
>
> 1. switch imx-ocotp-ele.c to use ELE API exclusively
> -> this will create a hard dependency on the ELE firmware/driver
> being available
Could this cause problems for real-time Linux users? Usually going
through a firmware driver adds more latency than doing the thing
from Linux directly, and the firmware is usually not preemptable.
In particular, programming a one-time fuse is likely a slow
operation in hardware, so it may still be necessary to support
both methods if there are users that need to update the fuses
on real-time systems.
Arnd
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* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE
2025-04-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE Peng Fan
@ 2025-04-22 7:33 ` Frieder Schrempf
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-22 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peng Fan, Frieder Schrempf
Cc: Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta, linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley,
devicetree, imx, Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
Sascha Hauer, Shawn Guo, Srinivas Kandagatla, Arnd Bergmann,
Fabio Estevam, Frank Li, Geert Uytterhoeven, Greg Kroah-Hartman,
Pengutronix Kernel Team, Rafał Miłecki, Shengjiu Wang,
Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang, Yoshihiro Shimoda
Hi Peng,
Am 22.04.25 um 08:30 schrieb Peng Fan:
> Hi Frieder,
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 04:26:19PM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
>> From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
>>
>> This depends on [1] for the support of the Edgelock Secure Enclave firmware
>> driver.
>>
>> There are at least two ways to access the OTP fuses on i.MX93:
>>
>> (1) through the FSB (fuseblock) registers
>> (2) through the ELE S400 API
>>
>> There currently is a NVMEM driver imx-ocotp-ele.c that (despite its name)
>> implements (1). As the FSB only provides limited access to the OTP registers
>> (read only) it's not sufficient for all use-cases.
>>
>> It seems like imx-ocotp-ele.c was intended to be extended later to implement
>> (1) and (2) deciding on a per-fuse-register basis which of both access methods
>> should be used.
>>
>> This has some downsides:
>>
>> * the driver gets convoluted and complex
>> * the driver decides which OTP registers are accessed in which way and therefore
>> mixes read-only and read/write access
>>
>> Therefore I implemented a simple driver that uses the ELE S400 API only, as the
>> FSB access (1) doesn't provide any benefits except for that it doesn't depend
>> on the ELE firmware being available. This is used by us downstream.
>>
>> For the upstream solution I would like to have some feedback on how to move
>> on:
>>
>> 1. switch imx-ocotp-ele.c to use ELE API exclusively
>> -> this will create a hard dependency on the ELE firmware/driver being available
>> 2. extend imx-ocotp-ele.c to use FSB and ELE API
>> -> make the driver use ELE API for all registers if ELE firmware/driver is available
>> 3. create separate drivers as done in this RFC
>
> Need to confirm ELE APIs supports all fuses. If yes, switching to using ELE API
> exclusively should be ok, no need to mix FSB and ELE API. And drop the current
> FSB usage
Ok, I already compared what fuse registers I can access via FSB and ELE.
The ELE seems to cover all registers that are available via FSB so that
shouldn't be a problem.
Still, after thinking a bit more about it, option 2 above seems like the
best way to go to me.
In case someone wants to use the system without the proprietary ELE
firmware, I'd like them to not run into the obstacle of loosing read
access to the OTPs. Especially as the Ethernet driver expects the NVMEM
cells for the MAC address to be available.
I know that the ELE firmware is currently somewhat mandatory as the
bootloader uses it, but I guess it would be possible and for some people
also desirable to have a system without it.
So what I would like to have is an optional DT property for the
imx-ocotp-ele.c driver to point to the secure enclave node. If the ELE
device is available at probe time, make the driver use the ELE API
exclusively. If not, fall back to the FSB API with read-only access.
If someone wants to avoid the ELE API altogether for whatever reason,
they could remove the link to the secure enclave node in their board DT.
Thanks
Frieder
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* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add NVMEM driver for i.MX93 OTP access through ELE
2025-04-22 6:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
@ 2025-04-22 7:37 ` Frieder Schrempf
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Frieder Schrempf @ 2025-04-22 7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arnd Bergmann, Frieder Schrempf, Peng Fan, Pankaj Gupta,
linux-arm-kernel, Conor Dooley, devicetree, imx,
Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel, Rob Herring, Sascha Hauer,
Shawn Guo, Srinivas Kandagatla
Cc: Fabio Estevam, Frank Li, Geert Uytterhoeven, Greg Kroah-Hartman,
Pengutronix Kernel Team, Rafał Miłecki, Shengjiu Wang,
Shenwei Wang, Xu Yang, Yoshihiro Shimoda
Am 22.04.25 um 08:40 schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, at 16:26, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
>
>> Therefore I implemented a simple driver that uses the ELE S400 API only, as the
>> FSB access (1) doesn't provide any benefits except for that it doesn't depend
>> on the ELE firmware being available. This is used by us downstream.
>>
>> For the upstream solution I would like to have some feedback on how to move
>> on:
>>
>> 1. switch imx-ocotp-ele.c to use ELE API exclusively
>> -> this will create a hard dependency on the ELE firmware/driver
>> being available
>
> Could this cause problems for real-time Linux users? Usually going
> through a firmware driver adds more latency than doing the thing
> from Linux directly, and the firmware is usually not preemptable.
>
> In particular, programming a one-time fuse is likely a slow
> operation in hardware, so it may still be necessary to support
> both methods if there are users that need to update the fuses
> on real-time systems.
Hm, interesting thought. I can't really tell if that could end up being
a real problem, but it might just be another good argument for
supporting both methods, yes.
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