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* [PATCH 0/2] drm: bridge: Add TI tmds181 and sn65dp159 driver (RFC)
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@ 2025-08-12 14:51 ` Mike Looijmans
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-12 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dri-devel
  Cc: Mike Looijmans, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel


In the past I've seen (and contributed to) hacks that model the chips as
phy or even (really!) clock drivers. Since the chip usually sits between
a signal that is (almost) HDMI and a HDMI connector, I decided to stop
lying and write it as a DRM bridge driver.

I'm fully aware that both bindings and driver require some more rework,
the bindings aren't complete yet and the driver needs some more #defines
for bitfields and such (the core code is over 5 years old).

My main question to the maintainers here: Is this a viable solution?
And if so, I'll do my best to document and clean it up further...



Mike Looijmans (2):
  dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159
    bindings
  drm: bridge: Add TI tmds181 and sn65dp159 driver

 .../bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml   | 104 ++++
 drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/Kconfig                |  11 +
 drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/Makefile               |   1 +
 drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/ti-tmds181.c           | 512 ++++++++++++++++++
 4 files changed, 628 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
 create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/ti-tmds181.c

-- 
2.43.0

base-commit: 53e760d8949895390e256e723e7ee46618310361
branch: drm-ti-tmds181

Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert


TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
The Netherlands

T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
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* [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
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@ 2025-08-12 14:51     ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-12 17:58       ` Conor Dooley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-12 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dri-devel
  Cc: Mike Looijmans, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

Add DT binding document for TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimers.

Signed-off-by: Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
---

 .../bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml   | 104 ++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 104 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..87ffb556c4ad
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
@@ -0,0 +1,104 @@
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
+%YAML 1.2
+---
+$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml#
+$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
+
+title: TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimer/redriver chips
+
+maintainers:
+  - Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
+
+description: |
+  Texas Instruments TMDS181 and SN65DP159 retimer and redriver chips.
+  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181
+  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181
+
+properties:
+  compatible:
+    enum:
+      - ti,tmds181
+      - ti,sn65dp159
+
+  reg:
+    enum:
+      - 0x5b
+      - 0x5c
+      - 0x5d
+      - 0x5e
+
+  oe-gpios:
+    maxItems: 1
+    description: GPIO specifier for OE pin (active high).
+
+  ports:
+    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
+
+    properties:
+      port@0:
+        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
+        unevaluatedProperties: false
+        description: Video port for HDMI (ish) input
+
+        properties:
+          endpoint:
+            $ref: /schemas/media/video-interfaces.yaml#
+            unevaluatedProperties: false
+
+      port@1:
+        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
+        unevaluatedProperties: false
+        description: Video port for HDMI output (panel or bridge)
+
+        properties:
+          endpoint:
+            $ref: /schemas/media/video-interfaces.yaml#
+            unevaluatedProperties: false
+
+    required:
+      - port@0
+      - port@1
+
+required:
+  - compatible
+  - reg
+  - ports
+
+additionalProperties: false
+
+examples:
+  - |
+    #include <dt-bindings/gpio/gpio.h>
+
+    i2c {
+        #address-cells = <1>;
+        #size-cells = <0>;
+
+        bridge@5b {
+            compatible = "ti,sn65dp159";
+            reg = <0x5b>;
+
+            oe-gpios = <&gpio2 1 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
+
+            ports {
+                #address-cells = <1>;
+                #size-cells = <0>;
+
+                port@0 {
+                    reg = <0>;
+
+                    endpoint {
+                        remote-endpoint = <&encoder_out>;
+                    };
+                };
+
+                port@1 {
+                    reg = <1>;
+
+                    endpoint {
+                        remote-endpoint = <&hdmi_connector_in>;
+                    };
+                };
+            };
+        };
+    };
-- 
2.43.0


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert


TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
The Netherlands

T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
W: www.topic.nl

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-12 14:51     ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings Mike Looijmans
@ 2025-08-12 17:58       ` Conor Dooley
  2025-08-19  7:46         ` Mike Looijmans
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Conor Dooley @ 2025-08-12 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

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On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 04:51:34PM +0200, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> Add DT binding document for TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimers.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
> ---
> 
>  .../bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml   | 104 ++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 104 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..87ffb556c4ad
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimer/redriver chips
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
> +
> +description: |
> +  Texas Instruments TMDS181 and SN65DP159 retimer and redriver chips.
> +  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181
> +  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181

These two links are the same.

> +
> +properties:
> +  compatible:
> +    enum:
> +      - ti,tmds181
> +      - ti,sn65dp159

The driver contains:
+	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
+	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
+	{}
so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?

Otherwise, this looks fine to me.

> +
> +  reg:
> +    enum:
> +      - 0x5b
> +      - 0x5c
> +      - 0x5d
> +      - 0x5e
> +
> +  oe-gpios:
> +    maxItems: 1
> +    description: GPIO specifier for OE pin (active high).
> +
> +  ports:
> +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> +
> +    properties:
> +      port@0:
> +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> +        unevaluatedProperties: false
> +        description: Video port for HDMI (ish) input
> +
> +        properties:
> +          endpoint:
> +            $ref: /schemas/media/video-interfaces.yaml#
> +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> +
> +      port@1:
> +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> +        unevaluatedProperties: false
> +        description: Video port for HDMI output (panel or bridge)
> +
> +        properties:
> +          endpoint:
> +            $ref: /schemas/media/video-interfaces.yaml#
> +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> +
> +    required:
> +      - port@0
> +      - port@1
> +
> +required:
> +  - compatible
> +  - reg
> +  - ports
> +
> +additionalProperties: false
> +
> +examples:
> +  - |
> +    #include <dt-bindings/gpio/gpio.h>
> +
> +    i2c {
> +        #address-cells = <1>;
> +        #size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +        bridge@5b {
> +            compatible = "ti,sn65dp159";
> +            reg = <0x5b>;
> +
> +            oe-gpios = <&gpio2 1 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> +
> +            ports {
> +                #address-cells = <1>;
> +                #size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +                port@0 {
> +                    reg = <0>;
> +
> +                    endpoint {
> +                        remote-endpoint = <&encoder_out>;
> +                    };
> +                };
> +
> +                port@1 {
> +                    reg = <1>;
> +
> +                    endpoint {
> +                        remote-endpoint = <&hdmi_connector_in>;
> +                    };
> +                };
> +            };
> +        };
> +    };
> -- 
> 2.43.0
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
> 
> Mike Looijmans
> System Expert
> 
> 
> TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
> Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
> The Netherlands
> 
> T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
> E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
> W: www.topic.nl
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-12 17:58       ` Conor Dooley
@ 2025-08-19  7:46         ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-19  7:51           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-19  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

On 12-08-2025 19:58, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 04:51:34PM +0200, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>> Add DT binding document for TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimers.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
>> ---
>>
>>   .../bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml   | 104 ++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 104 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..87ffb556c4ad
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml
>> @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@
>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
>> +%YAML 1.2
>> +---
>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/display/bridge/ti,tmds181.yaml#
>> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>> +
>> +title: TMDS181 and SN65DP159 HDMI retimer/redriver chips
>> +
>> +maintainers:
>> +  - Mike Looijmans <mike.looijmans@topic.nl>
>> +
>> +description: |
>> +  Texas Instruments TMDS181 and SN65DP159 retimer and redriver chips.
>> +  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181
>> +  https://www.ti.com/product/TMDS181
> These two links are the same.

Will fix in v3


>> +
>> +properties:
>> +  compatible:
>> +    enum:
>> +      - ti,tmds181
>> +      - ti,sn65dp159
> The driver contains:
> +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
> +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
> +	{}
> so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?

I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips, 
so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.

-- 
Mike Looijmans




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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-19  7:46         ` Mike Looijmans
@ 2025-08-19  7:51           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2025-08-19  8:26             ` Mike Looijmans
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2025-08-19  7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

On 19/08/2025 09:46, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>>> +
>>> +properties:
>>> +  compatible:
>>> +    enum:
>>> +      - ti,tmds181
>>> +      - ti,sn65dp159
>> The driver contains:
>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
>> +	{}
>> so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?
> 
> I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips, 

Your driver says they are compatible. No one said the same, but compatible.

> so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.

Compatible devices should use fallback. There is plenty of examples (90%
of all binding files?) including example-schema describing this.

> 


Best regards,
Krzysztof

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-19  7:51           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-08-19  8:26             ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-19 17:22               ` Conor Dooley
  2025-08-20  6:44               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-19  8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

On 19-08-2025 09:51, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 19/08/2025 09:46, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>>>> +
>>>> +properties:
>>>> +  compatible:
>>>> +    enum:
>>>> +      - ti,tmds181
>>>> +      - ti,sn65dp159
>>> The driver contains:
>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
>>> +	{}
>>> so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?
>> I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips,
> Your driver says they are compatible. No one said the same, but compatible.
>
>> so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.
> Compatible devices should use fallback. There is plenty of examples (90%
> of all binding files?) including example-schema describing this.

Please help me out here, I'm happy to oblige, but I don't understand 
what you're asking.

To the best of my knowledge "fallback" compatible is when you write 
something like this in the device-tree:
    compatible = "st,m25p80", "jedec,spi-nor";
Which means that we can use the "jedec,spi-nor" driver if there's no 
specific match for "st,m25p80", correct?

I don't understand how that relates to your request, this is the first 
time I ever got this particular feedback. Looking at say the 
ti,sn65dsi83 driver, it does the same thing (supports the ti,sn65dsi83 
and ti,sn65dsi84).

Please explain or point me somewhere where I can find this?

>
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof


-- 
Mike Looijmans
System Expert

TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
The Netherlands

T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
W: www.topic.nl




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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-19  8:26             ` Mike Looijmans
@ 2025-08-19 17:22               ` Conor Dooley
  2025-08-20  6:44               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Conor Dooley @ 2025-08-19 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans
  Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski, dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley,
	David Airlie, Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 10:26:15AM +0200, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> On 19-08-2025 09:51, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On 19/08/2025 09:46, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +properties:
> > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > +      - ti,tmds181
> > > > > +      - ti,sn65dp159
> > > > The driver contains:
> > > > +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
> > > > +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
> > > > +	{}
> > > > so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?
> > > I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips,
> > Your driver says they are compatible. No one said the same, but compatible.
> > 
> > > so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.
> > Compatible devices should use fallback. There is plenty of examples (90%
> > of all binding files?) including example-schema describing this.
> 
> Please help me out here, I'm happy to oblige, but I don't understand what
> you're asking.
> 
> To the best of my knowledge "fallback" compatible is when you write
> something like this in the device-tree:
>    compatible = "st,m25p80", "jedec,spi-nor";
> Which means that we can use the "jedec,spi-nor" driver if there's no
> specific match for "st,m25p80", correct?
> 
> I don't understand how that relates to your request, this is the first time
> I ever got this particular feedback. Looking at say the ti,sn65dsi83 driver,
> it does the same thing (supports the ti,sn65dsi83 and ti,sn65dsi84).
> 
> Please explain or point me somewhere where I can find this?

Devices that are supersets of, or functionally identical to, others should
use fallback compatibles. The driver treats these devices as functionally
identical to one another when it comes to match data (as there is none)
so you need to either use a fallback compatible or explain in your
commit message why one is not suitable here.

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-19  8:26             ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-19 17:22               ` Conor Dooley
@ 2025-08-20  6:44               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2025-08-20  9:37                 ` Mike Looijmans
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2025-08-20  6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

On 19/08/2025 10:26, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> On 19-08-2025 09:51, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 19/08/2025 09:46, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +properties:
>>>>> +  compatible:
>>>>> +    enum:
>>>>> +      - ti,tmds181
>>>>> +      - ti,sn65dp159
>>>> The driver contains:
>>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
>>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
>>>> +	{}
>>>> so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?
>>> I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips,
>> Your driver says they are compatible. No one said the same, but compatible.
>>
>>> so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.
>> Compatible devices should use fallback. There is plenty of examples (90%
>> of all binding files?) including example-schema describing this.
> 
> Please help me out here, I'm happy to oblige, but I don't understand 
> what you're asking.
> 
> To the best of my knowledge "fallback" compatible is when you write 
> something like this in the device-tree:
>     compatible = "st,m25p80", "jedec,spi-nor";
> Which means that we can use the "jedec,spi-nor" driver if there's no 
> specific match for "st,m25p80", correct?

Yes.

> 
> I don't understand how that relates to your request, this is the first 
> time I ever got this particular feedback. Looking at say the 
> ti,sn65dsi83 driver, it does the same thing (supports the ti,sn65dsi83 
> and ti,sn65dsi84).
> 
> Please explain or point me somewhere where I can find this?
I already pointed out to example-schema.

Also, e.g. first file in iio/adc:
adi,ad4000.yaml


Best regards,
Krzysztof

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-20  6:44               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-08-20  9:37                 ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-20 11:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2025-08-20 18:20                   ` Conor Dooley
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-20  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert


TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
The Netherlands

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On 20-08-2025 08:44, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 19/08/2025 10:26, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>> On 19-08-2025 09:51, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 19/08/2025 09:46, Mike Looijmans wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +properties:
>>>>>> +  compatible:
>>>>>> +    enum:
>>>>>> +      - ti,tmds181
>>>>>> +      - ti,sn65dp159
>>>>> The driver contains:
>>>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,tmds181", },
>>>>> +	{ .compatible = "ti,sn65dp159", },
>>>>> +	{}
>>>>> so why is a fallback compatible not suitable here?
>>>> I don't understand the question. The two are slightly different chips,
>>> Your driver says they are compatible. No one said the same, but compatible.
>>>
>>>> so it makes sense to describe that in the DT.
>>> Compatible devices should use fallback. There is plenty of examples (90%
>>> of all binding files?) including example-schema describing this.
>> Please help me out here, I'm happy to oblige, but I don't understand
>> what you're asking.
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge "fallback" compatible is when you write
>> something like this in the device-tree:
>>      compatible = "st,m25p80", "jedec,spi-nor";
>> Which means that we can use the "jedec,spi-nor" driver if there's no
>> specific match for "st,m25p80", correct?
> Yes.
>
>> I don't understand how that relates to your request, this is the first
>> time I ever got this particular feedback. Looking at say the
>> ti,sn65dsi83 driver, it does the same thing (supports the ti,sn65dsi83
>> and ti,sn65dsi84).
>>
>> Please explain or point me somewhere where I can find this?
> I already pointed out to example-schema.
>
> Also, e.g. first file in iio/adc:
> adi,ad4000.yaml
>
I think I get it. Instead of having compatibles "a" and "b" the driver only 
supports "a" in its match table, and the devicetree entry must be either 
compatible="a"; or compatible="b","a". Using compatible="b"; would be disallowed.

I actually planned (I have implemented it locally already for v3) for the 
driver to check the chip type and complain if it doesn't match the devicetree. 
If the wrong device is there, the most likely cause is that the input and 
output buses got mixed up. That would also justify having separate 
compatibles, right?



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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-20  9:37                 ` Mike Looijmans
@ 2025-08-20 11:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2025-08-20 12:10                     ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-20 18:20                   ` Conor Dooley
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2025-08-20 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

On 20/08/2025 11:37, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
> 
> Mike Looijmans
> System Expert
> 
> 
> TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
> Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
> The Netherlands
> 
> T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
> E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
> W: www.topic.nl

Please fix your email client not to attach such top signature.

...

>>
>> Also, e.g. first file in iio/adc:
>> adi,ad4000.yaml
>>
> I think I get it. Instead of having compatibles "a" and "b" the driver only 
> supports "a" in its match table, and the devicetree entry must be either 
> compatible="a"; or compatible="b","a". Using compatible="b"; would be disallowed.
> 
> I actually planned (I have implemented it locally already for v3) for the 
> driver to check the chip type and complain if it doesn't match the devicetree. 
> If the wrong device is there, the most likely cause is that the input and 
> output buses got mixed up. That would also justify having separate 

I don't understand why. I don't get what is input and output bus.

Either devices are compatible or not.

If you can check which device you have via registers, then usually they
are compatible.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-20 11:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-08-20 12:10                     ` Mike Looijmans
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mike Looijmans @ 2025-08-20 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley
  Cc: dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley, David Airlie,
	Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
System Expert


TOPIC Embedded Products B.V.
Materiaalweg 4, 5681 RJ Best
The Netherlands

T: +31 (0) 499 33 69 69
E: mike.looijmans@topic.nl
W: www.topic.nl

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
On 20-08-2025 13:35, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 20/08/2025 11:37, Mike Looijmans wrote:
> Please fix your email client not to attach such top signature.
>
> ...

It's actually the company IT that does that, but I'll keep doing my best to 
prevent it (though sometimes it kicks in anyway).


>
>>> Also, e.g. first file in iio/adc:
>>> adi,ad4000.yaml
>>>
>> I think I get it. Instead of having compatibles "a" and "b" the driver only
>> supports "a" in its match table, and the devicetree entry must be either
>> compatible="a"; or compatible="b","a". Using compatible="b"; would be disallowed.
>>
>> I actually planned (I have implemented it locally already for v3) for the
>> driver to check the chip type and complain if it doesn't match the devicetree.
>> If the wrong device is there, the most likely cause is that the input and
>> output buses got mixed up. That would also justify having separate
> I don't understand why. I don't get what is input and output bus.
>
> Either devices are compatible or not.
>
> If you can check which device you have via registers, then usually they
> are compatible.
>
They have almost the same registers, but they are intended for opposite sides 
of the HDMI cable. The DP159 variant expects to drive signals into the cable, 
while the TDMS181 expects to receive its input from the cable. If you 
encounter a TMDS181 where you expected the other, something's wrong with your 
board (the board manufacturer placed the wrong chip) or your devicetree (e.g. 
you mixed up the I2C addresses of the receiver and sender). In such case, the 
chip will happily do its thing, but the system may not work as expected.

Valid setups:

CRTC -> pcb -> DP159 -> cable -> hdmi-monitor

CRTC -> pcb -> cable -> TMDS181 -> hdmi-to-lvds -> panel

CRTC -> pcb -> DP159 -> cable -> TMDS181 -> hdmi-to-lvds -> panel






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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-tmds181: Add TI TMDS181 and SN65DP159 bindings
  2025-08-20  9:37                 ` Mike Looijmans
  2025-08-20 11:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2025-08-20 18:20                   ` Conor Dooley
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Conor Dooley @ 2025-08-20 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Looijmans
  Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski, dri-devel, Andrzej Hajda, Conor Dooley,
	David Airlie, Jernej Skrabec, Jonas Karlman, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Laurent Pinchart, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
	Neil Armstrong, Rob Herring, Robert Foss, Simona Vetter,
	Thomas Zimmermann, devicetree, linux-kernel

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On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 11:37:24AM +0200, Mike Looijmans wrote:

> I actually planned (I have implemented it locally already for v3) for the
> driver to check the chip type and complain if it doesn't match the
> devicetree. If the wrong device is there, the most likely cause is that the
> input and output buses got mixed up. That would also justify having separate
> compatibles, right?

It's not the kernel's job to verify the devicetree, it should be assumed
to be correct. You're ensuring that when another compatible device
arrives later on that a new string in a binding will not be sufficient
for the device to be supported and driver changes will be required to
make it work.

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