From: Janne Grunau <j@jannau.net>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Sven Peter <sven@kernel.org>, Nick Chan <towinchenmi@gmail.com>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa@rosenzweig.io>,
Neal Gompa <neal@gompa.dev>,
Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
asahi@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/9] dt-bindings: nvme: apple,nvme-ans: Add Apple A11
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 14:25:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250827122525.GA204299@robin.jannau.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12ab93b7-1fc2-4ce0-926e-c8141cfe81bf@kernel.org>
On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 03:09:42PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 21/08/2025 12:25, Sven Peter wrote:
> >
> > 1) For situations like this one where the generic one just doesn't make
> > any sense we deprecate "apple,nvme-ans2" in the binding and use
> > "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2" as the fallback instead, i.e. just
> > "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2" for M1, "apple,t6000-nvme-ans2",
> > "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2" for M1 Pro, and just "apple,t8015-nvme-ans2" for
> > A11.
> >
> > We keep the generic one in the driver for now but also add
> > "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2". We then remove the generic one from all
> > upstream DTS files but keep it inside the downstream files we ship to
> > users for now to avoid pain with kernel upgrades/downgrades.
> > A year or two from now we can then delete the deprecated generic
> > compatibles everywhere. This all has to be synced with OpenBSD and
> > u-boot as well since both also use these bindings.
> > It's gonna be rather painful but this would clean up the entire mess.
> >
> >
> > 2) We keep using the ones that are already upstream and just accept that
> > the situation is a mess and add comment above all the bindings that we
> > messed up and that this should not be used as pattern.
> > In this case that means it'll just be "apple,t8015-nvme-ans2" for A11
> > without any fallback and we keep everything else the way it is.
> >
> > I prefer option (2) but if you really want to get rid of all this mess
>
>
> I also prefer option (2). That's the least disruptive option for users
> and inconsistency in bindings naming is just inconsistency, no big deal.
> You just need to remember not to grow the old items/pattern with generic
> compatible.
This sounds to me like a mix of option 1) and 2).
All devices / SoCs already upstream will use the fixed current
compatibles and thus are following option 2)
New SoCs will have to use
compatible = "apple,t6020-nvme-ans2", "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2";
using t6020 as example even though they will be using the same driver
code as "apple,nvme-ans2". Using t6020 as an example I planned to submit
today.
This will require adding the new fallback "apple,t8103-nvme-ans2"
compatible string to the driver.
Asking for clarification as I could image such driver changes will raise
questions from the driver maintainers.
Is there a way do document/annotate the generic compatibles as
deprecated / "do not use" for new devices?
Thanks
Janne
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-27 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-18 8:42 [PATCH v2 0/9] Add support ANS2 NVMe on Apple A11 Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] dt-bindings: mailbox: apple,mailbox: Add ASC mailboxes on Apple A11 and T2 Nick Chan
2025-08-20 22:18 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] soc: apple: mailbox: Add Apple A11 and T2 mailbox support Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] dt-bindings: iommu: apple,sart: Add Apple A11 Nick Chan
2025-08-20 22:18 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-08-20 22:20 ` Rob Herring
2025-08-27 13:20 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-29 7:44 ` Sven Peter
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] soc: apple: sart: Make allow flags SART version dependent Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] soc: apple: sart: Add SARTv0 support Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] dt-bindings: nvme: apple,nvme-ans: Add Apple A11 Nick Chan
2025-08-19 9:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-19 10:01 ` Sven Peter
2025-08-19 11:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-21 10:25 ` Sven Peter
2025-08-21 13:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-21 15:47 ` Sven Peter
2025-08-27 12:25 ` Janne Grunau [this message]
2025-08-27 13:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18 8:43 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] nvme: apple: Add Apple A11 support Nick Chan
2025-08-19 8:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 16:22 ` Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:43 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] arm64: dts: apple: t8015: Fix PCIE power domains dependencies Nick Chan
2025-08-18 8:43 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] arm64: dts: apple: t8015: Add NVMe nodes Nick Chan
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