From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B6F0223708; Sun, 17 May 2026 16:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1779036006; cv=none; b=R9PSf9wSs8jsbcpQd4POmVAN7/P4x91uEQ4fjyapPk+sois7tUxgUiAVK5nfHegrxlgCqvlbsUTLrq3yTRjw9ZOTGzDlLtCLTLfKA+AW89OvFTqTne1oENnJvE6sSIimYe84TYGQVjEPdVLACvda0P7M1F693LmhnJJdq/0WBIQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1779036006; c=relaxed/simple; bh=u8TPZDJlwQ/Azd8YDqYjH0B+QcojCtUpyxuZcWPXSRw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UET8JR4+1wwBwSQqb7WdbOKLQTi5xPTayHMu9Im41JaomQAo084H5SbFGgAV52ZC3DKIytckiT/1TI8m1sqsGDeprLNd3Ido4C0mnuUxjkC6MmkYo8DweLmRvDQvKA3crTZt3v8EKtIM+xLR3bQGK5bxh5ek5JKzH/eX3ZZOTuo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=FV7Dn8rt; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="FV7Dn8rt" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8614C2BCB0; Sun, 17 May 2026 16:40:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1779036005; bh=u8TPZDJlwQ/Azd8YDqYjH0B+QcojCtUpyxuZcWPXSRw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FV7Dn8rtWUn4nJyOA/8f4MV8YwdnaewwEf+NqZXrdeoMBRhp7NOZT/aQiXa6r94ub hyhvdUxL2Ac9edB2BiDImUFnbJnt19hCZIVc7NkUan19oY/79dxZDX2CPadRenIXft gWOkM04BTIdzKlNk/WCkt5M5Hscnop/8qo95DPBwR+sk4h41crA5lhUEXJaCknAxat sMlEJ1hzixEuOc1Wqg+xloPCoAEQ8dYlqQ0F6BFpkjzcR3bu8t+dMrsdUdQAIhBwKS oSR8VOMN0nY828tf9tU8gWdgHEIzQZZtonSWpFeFt/CzsHaSgpEN4px0HICmxJxO3y h41y92MjLMhOw== Date: Sun, 17 May 2026 18:39:59 +0200 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Greg KH Cc: Roman Gushchin , Krzysztof Kozlowski , debarbos@redhat.com, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Guenter Roeck , sashiko-bot@kernel.org, sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev, sashiko@lists.linux.dev, Linux Kernel Workflows , Linux Kernel Mailing List , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, kfree@google.com Subject: Re: Stop false review statements Message-ID: <20260517183959.37441984@foz.lan> In-Reply-To: <2026051758-superbowl-baritone-2705@gregkh> References: <4f3d7f48-5766-425b-91f6-0acdb5554584@kernel.org> <07602616-412B-4ED8-95D7-588C0D077EE3@linux.dev> <20260517120556.248852d8@foz.lan> <2026051758-superbowl-baritone-2705@gregkh> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.4.0 (GTK 3.24.52; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:12:00 +0200 Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 12:05:56PM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > On Sat, 16 May 2026 14:59:44 -0700 > > Roman Gushchin wrote: > > =20 > > > > On May 16, 2026, at 2:33=E2=80=AFPM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > I find it opposite: clogging commits with useless information, beca= use > > > > some arbitrary and completely closed-source tool did analysis means > > > > nothing to me one year later when I look at the commit in the Git h= istory. =20 > > >=20 > > > This is simple not true: Sashiko is fully open-source, under Apache 2= .0 license > > > and the code belongs to LF. =20 > > =20 > > > Yes, the instance behind sashiko.dev is using > > > Gemini 3.1 Pro LLM, which is not open-source, but it=E2=80=99s not a = fundamental limitation -=20 > > > Sashiko is supporting various LLMs, including open models - it=E2=80= =99s just a practical > > > choice: to my knowledge the quality of open models is not on par with= frontier closed > > > models =20 > >=20 > > I would very much prefer using an open source LLM, even if not in pair= =20 > > with latest paid models. > > =20 > > > and it would require a non-trivial amount of hardware and infrastruct= ure to run > > > an open model at the required scale. =20 > >=20 > > IMHO the best would be to have them running on some infra that would ac= cept > > open source models (*). If there aren't enough resources to have our own > > infra, there are offers out there which allows running open source mode= ls > > like https://ollama.com/pricing (I never used myself). > >=20 > > (*) For instance, Qwen3.6 is brand new and licensed under apache-2.0. > > Not bad on my tests running it locally. =20 >=20 > You can run the tool locally, with whatever model you want, if you want > to. >=20 > But for now, let's just take the free credits that Google is willing to > throw at this thing and let it give us reviews IF the maintainer of the > subsystem feels it is something they want to do. No one is forcing > maintainers to do this. If Google and/or others are willing to give free credits on their cloud, they could instead or in addition give free credits to run ollama there, allowing us to use different models. =46rom my side, while I won't personally object getting reviews from Sashiko/Gemini, this is something I can't reproduce locally. I would very much want something where I can select my LLM preferred model and run on my ollama docker container on my own GPU, in a way that I could run it locally before even sending a patch series. > The netdev, bpf, and drm developers have been doing much the same for a > while now, with who-knows-what model behind the thing. The model > doesn't matter, we aren't advertising for them, we just want the results > that they can provide us. It is not about the model itself. It is about being able to easily install a sashiko locally on a container and easily make it use my ollma server with the model(s) of my choice. Right now, at least at=20 from its README.md, it sounds that only closed source services are supported. Thanks, Mauro