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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Peter Chen <hzpeterchen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
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	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Peter Chen <peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] USB: core: let USB device know device node
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:23:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2649144.tYaWDcKkag@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601221023350.1626-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Friday 22 January 2016 10:55:01 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > > > 		hub@3 { /* same external  hub, highspeed mode */
> > > > 			compatible = "usb2109,0812.591",
> > > > 				     "usb2109,0812",
> > > > 				     "usb2109,class9.0.1",
> > > > 				     "usb2109,class9.0",
> > > > 				     "usb2109,class9";
> > > > 
> > > > 			#address-cells = <1>;
> > > > 			#size-cells = <0>;
> > > > 			reg = <3>;
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Why "reg" is 3 here?
> > 
> > My mistake. It should be hub@1 and reg=<1>;
> > 
> > I accidentally confused the port number and the device number.
> 
> I thought you did it this way because you were numbering the SS
> root-hub ports 1-2 and the HS root-hub ports 3-4.

Right, I was confusing myself after the question. It was intentional
after all.

> There's something I should have made clear earlier.  This scheme for
> putting SS and HS USB-3 root-hub ports in the same number space is part
> of the xHCI spec.  It's not AFAIK required (or even mentioned) by the
> USB-3 spec, which means other types of USB-3 host controllers might do
> it differently.
> 
> The scheme which numbers SS and HS ports separately, both starting from
> 1, is mandated by the USB-3 spec for non-root hubs.  But since that
> spec doesn't say much about root hubs, the OS is free to treat them
> however it likes.  We have chosen to make root hubs appear as similar
> as possible to non-root hubs; however I believe that Windows (for
> example) may do things differently.
> 
> At any rate, since DT strives to reflect the actual hardware 
> properties, you probably should use the xHCI numbering scheme when 
> describing the ports of an xHCI root hub.

Yes, indeed that is what I was trying to say here.

> > > > Is it possible to have a hub in an interface of a multifunction device
> > > > or are they always single-configuration single-interface devices?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I have not seen such kinds of devices, but it is possible in theory.
> > 
> > Ok, so if the USB spec allows it, we should probably try to handle it too.
> 
> No, the spec does not allow it.  In fact, the spec divides all USB 
> devices into two classes: hubs and functions.  A function is anything 
> that isn't a hub.  And a hub is never allowed to contain more than one 
> configuration and interface.

Ok, that helps.

> The spec does allow for multiple functions to be packaged in the same 
> physical device.  In this case, the physical device contains a hub 
> along with various functions permanently connected to it.
> 
> For example, the old Apple USB keyboards are compound devices.  They
> contain an internal 3-port hub; one of the ports is permanently wired
> to the keyboard controller and the other two are exposed to the user,
> allowing a mouse and something else to be attached.

Good, that is straightforward to represent in a way that matches both
the DT binding and the Linux-internal representation.

We just have to decide what to do for non-hub devices that the OF
specification calls "combined nodes" (device class 0, one configuration,
one interface) and that, like hubs do not have one of_node per interface
plus one per device, but only one node.

Should we bind the of_node to the usb_device, the usb_interface or both
in this case? Doing both might be problematic and would need more
testing to be sure it works.

	Arnd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-22 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15  9:17 [PATCH v3 1/1] USB: core: let USB device know device node Peter Chen
     [not found] ` <1452849447-25025-1-git-send-email-peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 11:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-15 15:11     ` Alan Stern
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601151006330.1533-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 23:03         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-16 16:40           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601161115050.11338-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  8:15               ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18 16:46                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601181139150.25155-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19  3:08                     ` Peter Chen
2016-01-19 11:33                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-19 15:12                         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601191009190.1727-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20  3:48                             ` Peter Chen
2016-01-20  9:07                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-20 12:50                                 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-20 14:19                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21  3:15                                     ` Peter Chen
2016-01-21  8:41                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21  9:48                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-01-21 10:10                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21 15:21                                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601211015010.2275-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 22:24                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-22  6:59                                                   ` Peter Chen
2016-01-22 10:18                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-22 15:55                                                       ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601221023350.1626-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 16:23                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-01-22 19:29                                                             ` Alan Stern
2016-01-25  1:55                                                           ` Peter Chen
2016-01-25  3:57                                                       ` Peter Chen
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAL411-qfzcynzc=YrepzcA6EmFuxy-Ri4xRQ+R-QVBDEPZXtZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25  8:50                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-25  9:31                                                             ` Peter Chen
2016-01-25 15:23                                                               ` Alan Stern
2016-01-18 10:24               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-18  7:44         ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18  7:42     ` Peter Chen
2016-01-15 17:07   ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]     ` <1452877630.6067.97.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:30       ` Alan Stern
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601151220020.1533-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  7:13           ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18 16:39             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601181129340.25155-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19  2:52                 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18  7:10       ` Peter Chen

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