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From: Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 11:00:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2806714.DJA9EBBcvx@np-p-burton> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3f0f1f4-d6f6-1e75-499c-789b82b5bb1b@redhat.com>

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On Friday, 4 November 2016 14:22:17 GMT Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 04-11-16 13:30, Paul Burton wrote:
> > Hi Hans,
> > 
> > On Friday, 4 November 2016 13:11:34 GMT Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> 
> >> While booting 4.9-rc# for the first time on an Allwinner A33 tablet,
> >> I noticed that after u-boot the LCD display stayed black. It turns out
> >> that there was an issue which caused X to never get up, and all kernel
> >> (and other startup) messages prior to that only went to ttyS0 which
> >> consists of 2 tiny testpads on the PCB with this tablet.
> >> 
> >> The same issue will also happen on any ARM boards which have a HDMI or
> >> composite video output and which use a stdout-path pointing to their
> >> serial console. I think this will e.g. also impact the Raspberry Pi,
> >> I know for certain that this will impact the 99 different Allwinnner
> >> boards currently supported by mainline u-boot + the mainline kernel.
> >> 
> >> This is a behavior changes from previous kernels and I consider this
> >> a regression. Thus I propose to revert the commit in question, for more
> >> info here is a partial copy of the commit message of the proposed revert:
> >> 
> >> The reverted commit changes existing behavior on which many ARM boards
> >> rely. Many ARM small-board-computers, like e.g. the Raspberry Pi have
> >> both a video output and a serial console. Depending on whether the user
> >> is using the device as a more regular computer; or as a headless device
> >> we need to have the console on either one or the other.
> >> 
> >> Many users rely on the kernel behavior of the console being present on
> >> both outputs, before the reverted commit the console setup with no
> >> console= kernel arguments on an ARM board which sets stdout-path in dt
> >> would look like this:
> >> 
> >> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/consoles
> >> ttyS0                -W- (EC p a)    4:64
> >> tty0                 -WU (E  p  )    4:1
> >> 
> >> Where as after the reverted commit, it looks like this:
> >> 
> >> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/consoles
> >> ttyS0                -W- (EC p a)    4:64
> >> 
> >> This commit reverts commit 05fd007e4629 ("console: don't prefer first
> >> registered if DT specifies stdout-path") restoring the original behavior.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Hans
> > 
> > Ugh... so the devices you're talking about rely upon set stdout-path in
> > their device tree but effectively rely upon us ignoring it?
> 
> No they rely on the kernel using stdout-path as an extra console while
> keeping tty0 as console, not ignoring it. This how stdout-path has always
> worked (at least as long as the Allwinner boards have used it, which has
> been 2 - 3 years now).
> 
> If you want only the console specified by stdout-path you can get this by
> specifying it with console=... on the kernel cmdline.
> 
> > If that's the case then I guess reverting is probably the best option, but
> > it does restore us to a position where we honor stdout-path for earlycon
> > & then essentially ignore it for the proper kernel console. That seems
> > pretty bust to me...
> 
> We do not ignore it, we use both the tty pointed to by stdout-path and tty0.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans

Hi Hans,

Could you walk me though how you're getting that behaviour from the current 
code? I don't see how that would happen besides perhaps if drivers are probed 
in a fortunate order. Is that what you're relying upon?

What I see in my systems, and what 05fd007e4629 ("console: don't prefer first 
registered if DT specifies stdout-path") addressed, is that if there are for 
example 2 UARTs uart0 & uart1 that are probed in that order and stdout-path 
indicates that we should use uart1 we wind up essentially ignoring it because 
the ordering of the relevant calls goes:

  - of_console_check() for uart0
  - add_preferred_console() for uart0
  - register_console() for uart0
  - of_console_check() for uart1
  - add_preferred_console() for uart1
  - register_console() for uart1

Since of_check_console() doesn't get called for uart1 until after uart0 has 
been probed, we don't add an entry for it to the console_cmdline array until 
after register_console() has already decided to enable uart0 because 
preferred_console == -1.

I'm not the only one seeing this oddity either, for example see the discussion 
on this patch:

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9263753/

By simply reverting my patch you restore us to a position where so far as I 
can see we simply do not honor stdout-path for the real kernel console.

Thanks,
    Paul

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-05 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04 12:11 [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Hans de Goede
2016-11-04 12:30 ` Paul Burton
2016-11-04 13:22   ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-05 10:40     ` Paul Burton
2016-11-06 10:54       ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-07 17:16         ` Paul Burton
2016-11-08  9:12           ` Hans de Goede
2016-11-05 11:00     ` Paul Burton [this message]
     [not found] ` <20161104121135.4780-1-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 12:11   ` [PATCH] Revert "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <20161104121135.4780-2-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-04 19:39       ` Andrew Morton
2016-11-08  0:46       ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]         ` <87h97ilrx0.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-08  7:00           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-10 14:14             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-06 12:13   ` [REGRESSION] "console: don't prefer first registered if DT specifies stdout-path" breaks console on video outputs of various ARM boards Thorsten Leemhuis

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