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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 16:58:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e4c3c00-b248-421e-8ff1-d24b7b03be1a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK7ju2caTjqf1+VN@e133380.arm.com>

Hi Dave,

On 27/08/2025 11:53, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 03:29:47PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
>> MPAM identifies CPUs by the cache_id in the PPTT cache structure.
>>
>> The driver needs to know which CPUs are associated with the cache,
>> the CPUs may not all be online, so cacheinfo does not have the
>> information.
> 
> Nit: cacheinfo lacking the information is not a consequence of the
> driver needing it.
> 
> Maybe split the sentence:
> 
> -> "[...] associated with the cache. The CPUs may not [...]"

Sure,


>> Add a helper to pull this information out of the PPTT.

>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/pptt.c b/drivers/acpi/pptt.c
>> index 660457644a5b..cb93a9a7f9b6 100644
>> --- a/drivers/acpi/pptt.c
>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/pptt.c
>> @@ -971,3 +971,65 @@ int find_acpi_cache_level_from_id(u32 cache_id)
>>  
>>  	return -ENOENT;
>>  }
>> +
>> +/**
>> + * acpi_pptt_get_cpumask_from_cache_id() - Get the cpus associated with the
>> + *					   specified cache
>> + * @cache_id: The id field of the unified cache
>> + * @cpus: Where to build the cpumask
>> + *
>> + * Determine which CPUs are below this cache in the PPTT. This allows the property
>> + * to be found even if the CPUs are offline.
>> + *
>> + * The PPTT table must be rev 3 or later,
>> + *
>> + * Return: -ENOENT if the PPTT doesn't exist, or the cache cannot be found.
>> + * Otherwise returns 0 and sets the cpus in the provided cpumask.
>> + */
>> +int acpi_pptt_get_cpumask_from_cache_id(u32 cache_id, cpumask_t *cpus)
>> +{
>> +	u32 acpi_cpu_id;
>> +	int level, cpu, num_levels;
>> +	struct acpi_pptt_cache *cache;
>> +	struct acpi_pptt_cache_v1 *cache_v1;
>> +	struct acpi_pptt_processor *cpu_node;
>> +	struct acpi_table_header *table __free(acpi_table) = acpi_get_table_ret(ACPI_SIG_PPTT, 0);
>> +
>> +	cpumask_clear(cpus);
>> +
>> +	if (IS_ERR(table))
>> +		return -ENOENT;
>> +
>> +	if (table->revision < 3)
>> +		return -ENOENT;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * If we found the cache first, we'd still need to walk from each cpu.
>> +	 */
>> +	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
>> +		acpi_cpu_id = get_acpi_id_for_cpu(cpu);
>> +		cpu_node = acpi_find_processor_node(table, acpi_cpu_id);
>> +		if (!cpu_node)
>> +			return 0;
>> +		num_levels = acpi_count_levels(table, cpu_node, NULL);
>> +
>> +		/* Start at 1 for L1 */
>> +		for (level = 1; level <= num_levels; level++) {
>> +			cache = acpi_find_cache_node(table, acpi_cpu_id,
>> +						     ACPI_PPTT_CACHE_TYPE_UNIFIED,
>> +						     level, &cpu_node);
>> +			if (!cache)
>> +				continue;
>> +
>> +			cache_v1 = ACPI_ADD_PTR(struct acpi_pptt_cache_v1,
>> +						cache,
>> +						sizeof(struct acpi_pptt_cache));
>> +
>> +			if (cache->flags & ACPI_PPTT_CACHE_ID_VALID &&
>> +			    cache_v1->cache_id == cache_id)
>> +				cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, cpus);

> Again, it feels like we are repeating the same walk multiple times to
> determine how deep the table is (on which point the table is self-
> describing anyway), and then again to derive some static property, and
> then we are then doing all of that work multiple times to derive
> different static properties, etc.
> 
> Can we not just walk over the tables once and stash the derived
> properties somewhere?

That is possible - but its a more invasive change to the PPTT parsing code.
Before the introduction of the leaf flag, the search for a processor also included a
search to check if the discovered node was a leaf.

I think this is trading time - walking over the table multiple times, against the memory
you'd need to de-serialise the tree to find the necessary properties quickly. I think the
reason Jeremy L went this way was because there may never be another request into this
code, so being ready with a quick answer was a waste of memory.

MPAM doesn't change this - all these things are done up front during driver probing, and
the values are cached by the driver.


> I'm still getting my head around this parsing code, so I'm not saying
> that the approach is incorrect here -- just wondering whether there is
> a way to make it simpler.

It's walked at boot, and on cpu-hotplug. Neither are particularly performance critical.

I agree that as platforms get bigger, there will be a tipping point ... I don't think
anyone has complained yet!


Thanks,

James

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 15:29 [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 01/33] cacheinfo: Expose the code to generate a cache-id from a device_node James Morse
2025-08-27 10:46   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-28 14:08       ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 02/33] drivers: base: cacheinfo: Add helper to find the cache size from cpu+level James Morse
2025-08-24 17:25   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:46   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-28 14:10       ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 03/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a processor container James Morse
2025-08-26 14:45   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:56     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:48   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 04/33] ACPI / PPTT: Stop acpi_count_levels() expecting callers to clear levels James Morse
2025-08-27 10:49   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 05/33] ACPI / PPTT: Find cache level by cache-id James Morse
2025-08-23 12:14   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-27  9:25   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:50   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 06/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id James Morse
2025-08-27 10:53   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse [this message]
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 07/33] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM James Morse
2025-08-27  8:53   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse
2025-08-29  8:20       ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-27 11:01   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 08/33] ACPI / MPAM: Parse the MPAM table James Morse
2025-08-23 10:55   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-27 16:05   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 09/33] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding James Morse
2025-08-27 16:22   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 10/33] arm_mpam: Add probe/remove for mpam msc driver and kbuild boiler plate James Morse
2025-08-22 19:15   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-22 19:55   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-23  6:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-08-27 13:03   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-27 15:39   ` Rob Herring
2025-08-27 16:16     ` Rob Herring
2025-09-01  9:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-09-01 11:21   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 11/33] arm_mpam: Add support for memory controller MSC on DT platforms James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 12/33] arm_mpam: Add the class and component structures for ris firmware described James Morse
2025-08-28  1:29   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-09-01 11:09   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 13/33] arm_mpam: Add MPAM MSC register layout definitions James Morse
2025-08-29  8:42   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 14/33] arm_mpam: Add cpuhp callbacks to probe MSC hardware James Morse
2025-08-27 16:08   ` Rob Herring
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 15/33] arm_mpam: Probe MSCs to find the supported partid/pmg values James Morse
2025-08-28 13:12   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 16/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers for managing the locking around the mon_sel registers James Morse
2025-08-28 17:07   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 17/33] arm_mpam: Probe the hardware features resctrl supports James Morse
2025-08-28 13:44   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 18/33] arm_mpam: Merge supported features during mpam_enable() into mpam_class James Morse
2025-08-29 13:54   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 19/33] arm_mpam: Reset MSC controls from cpu hp callbacks James Morse
2025-08-27 16:19   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 20/33] arm_mpam: Add a helper to touch an MSC from any CPU James Morse
2025-08-28 16:13   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 21/33] arm_mpam: Extend reset logic to allow devices to be reset any time James Morse
2025-08-29 14:30   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 22/33] arm_mpam: Register and enable IRQs James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 23/33] arm_mpam: Use a static key to indicate when mpam is enabled James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 24/33] arm_mpam: Allow configuration to be applied and restored during cpu online James Morse
2025-08-28 16:13   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 25/33] arm_mpam: Probe and reset the rest of the features James Morse
2025-08-28 10:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 26/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers to allocate monitors James Morse
2025-08-29 15:47   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 27/33] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value James Morse
2025-08-29 15:55   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 28/33] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management James Morse
2025-08-29 16:09   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 29/33] arm_mpam: Probe for long/lwd mbwu counters James Morse
2025-08-28 16:14   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 30/33] arm_mpam: Use long MBWU counters if supported James Morse
2025-08-29 16:39   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 31/33] arm_mpam: Add helper to reset saved mbwu state James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 32/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit test for bitmap reset James Morse
2025-08-29 16:56   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 33/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit tests for props_mismatch() James Morse
2025-08-29 17:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 01/33] cacheinfo: Expose the code to generate a cache-id from a device_node James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 02/33] drivers: base: cacheinfo: Add helper to find the cache size from cpu+level James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 03/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a processor container James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 04/33] ACPI / PPTT: Stop acpi_count_levels() expecting callers to clear levels James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 05/33] ACPI / PPTT: Find cache level by cache-id James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 06/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 07/33] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 08/33] ACPI / MPAM: Parse the MPAM table James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 09/33] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 10/33] arm_mpam: Add probe/remove for mpam msc driver and kbuild boiler plate James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 11/33] arm_mpam: Add support for memory controller MSC on DT platforms James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 12/33] arm_mpam: Add the class and component structures for ris firmware described James Morse
2025-08-29 12:41   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 13/33] arm_mpam: Add MPAM MSC register layout definitions James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 14/33] arm_mpam: Add cpuhp callbacks to probe MSC hardware James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 15/33] arm_mpam: Probe MSCs to find the supported partid/pmg values James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 16/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers for managing the locking around the mon_sel registers James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 17/33] arm_mpam: Probe the hardware features resctrl supports James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 18/33] arm_mpam: Merge supported features during mpam_enable() into mpam_class James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 19/33] arm_mpam: Reset MSC controls from cpu hp callbacks James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 20/33] arm_mpam: Add a helper to touch an MSC from any CPU James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 21/33] arm_mpam: Extend reset logic to allow devices to be reset any time James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 22/33] arm_mpam: Register and enable IRQs James Morse
2025-09-01 10:05   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 23/33] arm_mpam: Use a static key to indicate when mpam is enabled James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 24/33] arm_mpam: Allow configuration to be applied and restored during cpu online James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 25/33] arm_mpam: Probe and reset the rest of the features James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 26/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers to allocate monitors James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 27/33] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 28/33] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management James Morse
2025-08-28  0:58   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 29/33] arm_mpam: Probe for long/lwd mbwu counters James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 30/33] arm_mpam: Use long MBWU counters if supported James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 31/33] arm_mpam: Add helper to reset saved mbwu state James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 32/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit test for bitmap reset James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 33/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit tests for props_mismatch() James Morse
2025-09-02 16:59   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-24 17:24 ` [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver Krzysztof Kozlowski

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