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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jacky Huang" <ychuang570808@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Tomer Maimon" <tmaimon77@gmail.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, soc@kernel.org, schung@nuvoton.com,
	mjchen@nuvoton.com, "Jacky Huang" <ychuang3@nuvoton.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 1/1] tty: serial: Add Nuvoton ma35d1 serial driver support
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:44:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35e768ad-7f15-48a4-9c38-09570026cf71@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2023061356-matchbook-footwear-d142@gregkh>

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, at 16:49, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 06:58:32PM +0800, Jacky Huang wrote:
>> 
>> On 2023/6/13 下午 06:28, Greg KH wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 02:53:55AM +0000, Jacky Huang wrote:
>> > > From: Jacky Huang <ychuang3@nuvoton.com>
>> > > 
>> > > This adds UART and console driver for Nuvoton ma35d1 Soc.
>> > > It supports full-duplex communication, FIFO control, and
>> > > hardware flow control.
>> > You get a full 72 columns for your changelog :)
>> > 
>> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/serial_core.h
>> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/serial_core.h
>> > > @@ -279,4 +279,7 @@
>> > >   /* Sunplus UART */
>> > >   #define PORT_SUNPLUS	123
>> > > +/* Nuvoton MA35 SoC */
>> > > +#define PORT_MA35	124
>> > > +
>> > Why is this change needed?  What userspace code is going to rely on it?
>> > 
>> > thanks,
>> > 
>> > greg k-h
>> 
>> Because the serial driver requires a port->type, and almost all serial
>> drivers defined their port type here. We follow the practice of most serial
>> drivers here.
>> If we don't do it this way, we would have to directly assign a value to
>> port->type. However, such modifications were questioned in the past,
>> which is why we changed it back to defining the port type in serial_core.h.
>
> I really really want to get rid of this list, as it's a UAPI that no one
> uses.  So please don't use it, it doesn't help anything, and while the
> serial driver might require it, it doesn't actually do anything with
> that field, right?  So why don't we just set all of the values to the
> same one?

I don't see how Jacky can come up with a patch to do this correctly
without more specific guidance to what exactly you are looking for,
after the last 123 people that added support for a new port got
that merged.

I checked debian codesearch and found only three obscure packages that
accidentally include this header instead of including linux/serial.h,
a couple of lists of all kernel headers, and none that include it on
purpose. I agree that this header should really not exist in uapi,
but the question is what exactly to do about it.

Possible changes would be:

- add a special value PORT_* constant other than PORT_UNKNOWN that
  can be used by serial drivers instead of a unique value, and
  ensure that the serial core can handle drivers using it.

- move all values used by the 8250 driver from serial_core.h
  to serial.h, as this driver actually uses the constants.

- Move the remaining contents of uapi/linux/serial.h into the 
  non-uapi version.

- Change all drivers that only reference a single PORT_*
  value to use the generic one.

       Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-13 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12  2:53 [PATCH v14 0/1] Introduce Nuvoton ma35d1 SoC Jacky Huang
2023-06-12  2:53 ` [PATCH v14 1/1] tty: serial: Add Nuvoton ma35d1 serial driver support Jacky Huang
2023-06-13  9:36   ` Ilpo Järvinen
     [not found]   ` <2023061338-lunchbox-snorkel-e6a9@gregkh>
2023-06-13 10:58     ` Jacky Huang
     [not found]       ` <2023061356-matchbook-footwear-d142@gregkh>
2023-06-13 15:44         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-06-14  4:57           ` Jiri Slaby
     [not found]           ` <2023061555-enlighten-worshiper-c92d@gregkh>
2023-06-15 10:46             ` Jacky Huang
2023-06-15 14:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]               ` <2023061500-tipper-tightwad-8843@gregkh>
2023-06-15 16:11                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <2023061325-distant-gaffe-8871@gregkh>
2023-06-13 11:03     ` Jacky Huang
     [not found]       ` <2023061312-outsource-triumph-7dd6@gregkh>
2023-06-14  1:18         ` Jacky Huang

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