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From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>,
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	David Wu <david.wu@rock-chips.com>,
	Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.ba>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Move DP phy switch to PHY driver
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:46:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4091462.xo23GTqF41@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8042d73f-c1de-da41-9066-2377de1f521c@rock-chips.com>

Hi Chris,

Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 10:47:08 CET schrieb Chris Zhong:
> On 2017年12月02日 05:58, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017, 13:42:46 CET schrieb Doug Anderson:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Doug
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for mentioning this patch.
> >>> 
> >>> I think the focus of the discussion is: can we put the grf control bit
> >>> to
> >>> dts.
> >>> 
> >>> The RK3399 has 2 Type-C phy, but only one DP controller, this
> >>> "uphy_dp_sel"
> >>> 
> >>> can help to switch these 2 phy. So I think this bit can be considered as
> >>> a
> >>> part of
> >>> 
> >>> Type-C phy, these 2 phy have different bits, just similar to other bits
> >>> (such as "pipe-status").
> >>> 
> >>> Put them to DTS file might be a accepted practice.
> >> 
> >> I guess the first step would be finding the person to make a decision.
> >> Is that Heiko?  Olof?  Kishon?  Rob?.  As I see it there are a few
> >> options:
> >> 
> >> 1. Land this series as-is.  This makes the new bit work just like all
> >> the other ones next to it.  If anyone happens to try to use an old
> >> device tree on a new kernel they'll break.  Seems rather unlikely
> >> given that the whole type C PHY is not really fully functional
> >> upstream, but technically this is a no-no from a device tree
> >> perspective.
> >> 
> >> 2. Change the series to make this property optional.  If it's not
> >> there then the code behaves like it always did.  This would address
> >> the "compatibility" problem but likely wouldn't actually help any real
> >> people, and it would be extra work.
> >> 
> >> 3. Redo the driver to deprecate all the old offsets / bits and just
> >> put the table in the driver, keyed off the compatible string and base
> >> address if the IO memory.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I can't make this decision.  It's up to those folks who would be
> >> landing the patch and I'd be happy with any of them.  What I'm less
> >> happy with, however, is the indecision preventing forward progress.
> >> We should pick one of the above things and land it.  My own personal
> >> bias is #1: just land the series.  No real people will be hurt and
> >> it's just adding another property that matches the ones next to it.
> > 
> > I'd second that #1 . That whole type-c phy thingy never fully worked in
> > the past (some for the never used dp output), so personally I don't have
> > issues with going that route.
> > 
> >>  From a long term perspective (AKA how I'd write the next driver like
> >> 
> >> this) I personally lean towards to "tables in the driver, not in the
> >> device tree" but quite honestly I'm happy to take whatever direction
> >> the maintainers give.
> > 
> > It looks like we're in agreement here :-) . GRF stuff should not leak into
> > the devicetree, as it causes endless headaches later. But I guess we'll
> > need to live with the ones that happened so far.
> 
> So, the first step is: move all the private property of tcphy to
> drivers/phy/rockchip/phy-rockchip-typec.c.
> Second step: new a member: uphy-dp-sel.
> In my mind, we should have discussed these properties before, and then I
> moved them all into DTS.

Actually, I was agreeing with Doug, that we probably don't need to rework the 
type-c phy driver. As most properties for it are in the devicetree right now
we'll need to support them for backwards-compatiblity anyway.

And yes, there probably was discussion over dts vs. driver-table when the
type-c driver was introduced, but I either missed it or wasn't firm enough
back then ;-) .

Hence the "we'll need to live with it" for the type-c phy, but should not
do similar things in future drivers.


Heiko
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-04  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-10  7:44 [PATCH 0/4] Move DP phy switch to PHY driver Chris Zhong
2017-02-10  7:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] Documentation: bindings: add uphy-dp-sel for Rockchip USB Type-C PHY Chris Zhong
2017-02-16  2:20   ` Rob Herring
2017-02-16  3:14     ` Chris Zhong
2017-02-10  7:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: dts: rockchip: add rockchip, uphy-dp-sel for Type-C phy Chris Zhong
2017-11-28 23:32 ` [PATCH 0/4] Move DP phy switch to PHY driver Doug Anderson
     [not found]   ` <CAD=FV=VdUhfL+_MShYynoXKQW1-KpAOsW=x+hAxGZO78rJEyeQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-30  2:27     ` Chris Zhong
     [not found]       ` <c6fb4d29-6c6d-7f39-3cdd-3bc42c4519a2-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-01 21:42         ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]           ` <CAD=FV=Vk0fOfYXc2gGDpvoVuT8m9WGT-eJ4hOM=G5MY_Bzzpwg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-01 21:58             ` Heiko Stuebner
2017-12-04  2:47               ` Chris Zhong
2017-12-04  7:46                 ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2017-12-04 16:08                   ` Doug Anderson
2017-12-04 21:53                     ` Heiko Stübner
     [not found] ` <1486712654-15431-1-git-send-email-zyw-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-16 11:04   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2018-02-16 13:05     ` Heiko Stübner
2018-02-16 13:59       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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