devicetree.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	U-Boot Mailing List
	<u-boot-0aAXYlwwYIKGBzrmiIFOJg@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joe Hershberger <joe.hershberger-acOepvfBmUk@public.gmane.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada
	<yamada.masahiro-uWyLwvC0a2jby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada
	<yamada.m-NAum8xwdG0+S7A1Ibl2khg@public.gmane.org>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Rini <trini-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Albert Aribaud
	<albert.u.boot-LhW3hqR2+23R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Vikas Manocha <vikas.manocha-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Herrmann
	<morpheus.ibis-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:17:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4255169.hST9sycFU2@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdakAVcBT8phhbFjE+mkfA0pTcHYiaL0dV4UNieH54fd+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wednesday 15 July 2015 12:08:05 Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > The CHRP ISA binding defines that a 8250 compatible UART must have this
> > property:
> >
> >   "clock-frequency" S
> >
> >   Standard property, encoded as with encode-int, that shall be the baud-rate
> >   generator's clock input frequency (in hertz).
> >   Typically, the clock frequency is nominally 1,843,200 Hz. Some devices
> >   generate the baud rate input clock by dividing a higher-frequency clock
> >   source that is not an exact multiple of 1,843,200 Hz, resulting in a
> >   small but acceptable error in the nominal clock frequency. In such cases,
> >   the "clock-frequency" shall report the actual nominal frequency. For
> >   example, if the baud rate input clock is generated by dividing a 24
> >   MHz clock by 13, the value of the "clock-frequency" property shall be 1846153.
> 
> Isn't that for the case where the clock frequency will never change at runtime?
> 
> The problem (I think) with many systems using PL011 is that they can
> actually change the serial port clock at runtime (software controlled clock),
> so providing a "clock-frequency" would imply that they cannot, and the clock
> frequency is fixed to that value.
> 
> I think it's better to use boot-clock-frequency or so to indicate that a richer
> OS will provide more refined clocks. For example that frequency can
> typically change if the SoC changes operating point or so, though it would
> be awkward to handle in the driver, admittedly and I haven't seen a
> piece of code that actually go and change the UART input frequency.
> 
> Still for completion it is better for the UART to tie into the clk framework
> as the OS gets up, and just providing clock-frequency seems to imply
> that it need not do that or something. The semantical effect of providing both
> clock-frequency = and clocks =< &..> must be clarified in any case.
> Like the latter overrides the former if clock phandles can be handled by
> the environment. (And this should be stated in the binding.)

Ah right. I don't think that naming is super critical though, as a lot 
of properties in the DT just describe how things are at boot time.

	Arnd
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in
the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1436324032-17931-1-git-send-email-sjg@chromium.org>
     [not found] ` <1436324032-17931-12-git-send-email-sjg@chromium.org>
     [not found]   ` <1436324032-17931-12-git-send-email-sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  9:00     ` [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART Linus Walleij
     [not found]       ` <CACRpkdb=t21=qpqar5VXd4mtqTWrq6MvoX1OsVgmWpkyFqhj3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  9:38         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-15 10:08           ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]             ` <CACRpkdakAVcBT8phhbFjE+mkfA0pTcHYiaL0dV4UNieH54fd+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 10:17               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-07-16  7:41                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19  7:19                   ` Linus Walleij

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4255169.hST9sycFU2@wuerfel \
    --to=arnd-r2ngtmty4d4@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=albert.u.boot-LhW3hqR2+23R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=joe.hershberger-acOepvfBmUk@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=marek.vasut-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=morpheus.ibis-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=trini-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=u-boot-0aAXYlwwYIKGBzrmiIFOJg@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=vikas.manocha-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=yamada.m-NAum8xwdG0+S7A1Ibl2khg@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=yamada.masahiro-uWyLwvC0a2jby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).