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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@chromium.org>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Linux DeviceTree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Linux IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, Cho KyongHo <pullip.cho@samsung.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 18:01:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4376848.aihqtRyYDl@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEJEGvhEsC9wKqX_pYmOg7LwsQkoN9=jjXJuW0UeEa9XywSPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 21 May 2014 08:44:42 Grant Grundler wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 May 2014 11:02:45 Thierry Reding wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:54:42AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>
> >> > Right. As long as we always unmap the buffers from the IOMMU after they
> >> > have stopped being in use, it's very unlikely that even a broken device
> >> > driver causes a DMA into some bus address that happens to be mapped for
> >> > another device.
> >>
> >> I think that if buffers remain mapped in the IOMMU when they have been
> >> deallocated that should be considered a bug.
> 
> There is currently no general requirement to tear down mappings immediately.
> An option to enforce immediate tear down might be useful since I agree
> Virtual Guests sharing host memory through shared physical devices
> will want that. ie there should be no opportunity for a shared device
> to be able to access another guests memory through "stale" (but live)
> DMA mappings. I don't think that's the case but I'd ask someone like
> Alex Williamson for a more certain answer.

I believe powerpc has a boot-time option to enforce the immediate
IOTLB flush, which is very useful for device driver debugging when
something goes wrong with stale DMAs.

> > Obviously you have to maintain the IO page tables correctly.
> 
> To be clear, "Correctly" in this case just means until the IOTLB is
> flushed, the given IOMMU Pdir entries are marked "in use" even though
> the driver has handed "ownership" back to the IOMMU driver.

I don't know what a Pdir is, but I guess strictly speaking we have
to ensure that all IO page table entries that have been unmapped by
a driver are marked as invalid at least by the time the IOTLB is flushed,
plus we have to flush each entry before it gets reused for a different
page.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-16 12:23 [PATCH] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1400242998-437-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-17  8:04   ` Cho KyongHo
2014-05-17 20:48     ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-19 10:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 12:53     ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-19 17:22       ` Dave Martin
     [not found]         ` <20140519172113.GA13858-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-19 20:32           ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 10:08             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 13:07               ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                 ` <20140520130659.GA5041-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20 13:23                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 15:26                     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                       ` <20140520152659.GA30404-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20 16:39                         ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                           ` <20140520163912.GC5041-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20 20:40                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 18:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 20:59         ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 10:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 11:05             ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 11:15               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 12:02                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 12:41                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 13:17                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 13:34                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 14:00                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 20:31                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  8:16                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  8:54                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  9:02                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  9:32                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 15:44                                     ` Grant Grundler
2014-05-21 16:01                                       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-05-20 15:24                     ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                       ` <20140520152458.GB5041-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20 20:26                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  8:26                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  8:50                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  9:00                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  9:36                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 10:50                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21 14:01                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 17:09                                 ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <20140521170954.GC3830-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-21 18:11                                     ` Arnd Bergmann

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