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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/12] drm: rcar-du: Fix legacy DT to create LVDS encoder nodes
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:12:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <444f1b6b-fa57-da7c-08fd-51b28cdb5fff@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1891263.xKRehmHzfM@avalon>

On 01/15/18 11:22, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> 
> On Monday, 15 January 2018 21:12:44 EET Frank Rowand wrote:
>> On 01/15/18 09:09, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> +Frank
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>>> The internal LVDS encoders now have their own DT bindings. Before
>>>> switching the driver infrastructure to those new bindings, implement
>>>> backward-compatibility through live DT patching.
>>>
>>> Uhh, we just got rid of TI's patching and now adding this one. I guess
>>

Let me first answer the question that you ask later.  You ask "Can we work on
this together to find a solution that would suit us both ?"

My answer to that is emphatically YES.  I will definitely work with you to
try to find a good solution.


>> Please no.  What we just got rid of was making it difficult for me to
>> make changes to the overlay infrastructure.  There are issues with
>> overlays that need to be fixed before overlays become really usable.
>> I am about to propose the next change, which involves removing a
>> chunk of code that I will not be able to remove if this patch is
>> accepted (the proposal is awaiting me collecting some data about
>> the impact of the change, which I expect to complete this week).

I should have thought just a little bit more before I hit send.  The
situation is even worse than I wrote.  One of the next steps (in
addition to what I wrote about above) is to change the overlay apply
function to accept a flattened device tree (FDT), not an expanded
device tree.  In this changed model, the unflattened overlay is
not available to be modified before it is applied.

It is important for the devicetree infrastructure to have ownership
of the FDT that is used to create the unflattened tree.  (Notice
that in the proposed patch, rcar_du_of_get_overlay() follows the
TI example of doing a kmemdup of the blob (FDT), then uses the
copy for the unflatten.  The kmemdup() in this case is to create
a persistent copy of the FDT.)  The driver having ownership of
this copy, and having the ability to free it is one of the many
problems with the current overlay implementation.

>>
>> Can you please handle both the old and new bindings through driver
>> code instead?
> 
> I could, but it would be pointless. The point here is to allow cleanups in the 
> driver. The LVDS encoder handling code is very intrusive in its current form 
> and I need to get rid of it. There would be zero point in moving to the new 
> infrastructure, as the main point is to get rid of the old code which prevents 
> moving forward. As a consequence that would block new boards from receiving 
> proper upstream support. An easy option is to break backward compatibility. 
> I'm personally fine with that, but I assume other people would complain :-)
> 
> I can, on the other hand, work with you to see how live DT patching could be 
> implemented in this driver without blocking your code. When developing this 
> patch series I start by patching the device tree manually without relying on 
> overlays at all, but got blocked by the fact that I need to allocate phandles 
> for new nodes I create. If there was an API to allocate an unused phandle I 
> could avoid using the overlay infrastructure at all. Or there could be other 

It seems reasonable to provide a way to autogenerate a phandle (if requested)
by the devicetree code that creates a new node.  Were you using a function
from drivers/of/dynamic.c to create the node?


> options I'm not thinking of as I don't know what the changes you're working on 
> are. Can we work on this together to find a solution that would suit us both ?

Again, yes, I would be glad to work with you on this.

-Frank

> 
>>> it's necessary, but I'd like to know how long we need to keep this?
>>>
>>> How many overlays would you need if everything is static (i.e.
>>> removing all your fixup code)?
>>>
>>>> Patching is disabled and will be enabled along with support for the new
>>>> DT bindings in the DU driver.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
>>>> <laurent.pinchart+renesas-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes since v1:
>>>>
>>>> - Select OF_FLATTREE
>>>> - Compile LVDS DT bindings patch code when DRM_RCAR_LVDS is selected
>>>> - Update the SPDX headers to use GPL-2.0 instead of GPL-2.0-only
>>>> - Turn __dtb_rcar_du_of_lvds_(begin|end) from u8 to char
>>>> - Pass void begin and end pointers to rcar_du_of_get_overlay()
>>>> - Use of_get_parent() instead of accessing the parent pointer directly
>>>> - Find the LVDS endpoints nodes based on the LVDS node instead of the
>>>>   root of the overlay
>>>> - Update to the <soc>-lvds compatible string format
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/Kconfig             |   2 +
>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/Makefile            |   3 +-
>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of.c        | 451 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of.h        |  16 +
>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of_lvds.dts |  82 +++++
>>>>  5 files changed, 553 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of.c
>>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of.h
>>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/rcar-du/rcar_du_of_lvds.dts
> 
> [snip]
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-15 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12 23:14 [PATCH v2 00/12] R-Car DU: Convert LVDS code to bridge driver Laurent Pinchart
     [not found] ` <20180112231430.26943-1-laurent.pinchart+renesas-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-12 23:14   ` [PATCH v2 01/12] dt-bindings: display: renesas: Add R-Car LVDS encoder DT bindings Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-19 22:47     ` Rob Herring
2018-01-12 23:14   ` [PATCH v2 02/12] dt-bindings: display: renesas: Deprecate LVDS support in the DU bindings Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-12 23:14   ` [PATCH v2 03/12] drm: rcar-du: Fix legacy DT to create LVDS encoder nodes Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-15 17:09     ` Rob Herring
2018-01-15 18:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-16  8:56         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]           ` <CAMuHMdUNcKOod1KCAGSBeMr52PWKqkJo0AWmSNk76t0=Zvu0gA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 10:23             ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-16 15:08           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <CAL_JsqJuzXgx-ntbHdYiabi7DUyT8y0Vxj-c5KBmf+Gk+EWtMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 15:31               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-01-15 19:12       ` Frank Rowand
2018-01-15 19:22         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-15 20:12           ` Frank Rowand [this message]
     [not found]             ` <444f1b6b-fa57-da7c-08fd-51b28cdb5fff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-15 20:29               ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-15 23:46                 ` Frank Rowand
2018-01-15 23:57                   ` Frank Rowand
2018-01-16 14:35                   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                     ` <CAL_JsqKD_VKMrfi42hZ3eHPAMWBwryV0g_cXDUeyaKfPP99LmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 16:32                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-16 16:54                         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                           ` <CAL_Jsq+4X17Q+wva0R6sPHY02TJ5+E5vE8Y98+DB5VF2MdFy0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 20:35                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-21  9:35     ` Sergei Shtylyov

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