From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David Woodhouse" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:30:09 -0000 Message-ID: <465e75de15f7d79c3b57a3b88024e739.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org> References: <20131023174458.GC5208@netboy> <1382553982.31058.10.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <20131024095232.27BBCC4039D@trevor.secretlab.ca> <1382614439.6040.16.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <1382615278.8522.72.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20131024122346.GD11296@ulmo.nvidia.com> <1382619655.6040.52.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <516bfc7f9366ff3ef9187c36dd160888.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org> <1382621431.6040.66.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <20131024141955.GB25061@ulmo.nvidia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20131024141955.GB25061-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org> Sender: devicetree-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Thierry Reding Cc: David Woodhouse , mbizon-MmRyKUhfbQ9GWvitb5QawA@public.gmane.org, Grant Likely , "devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , "ksummit-2013-discuss-cunTk1MwBs98uUxBSJOaYoYkZiVZrdSR2LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org" , Nicolas Pitre , Jason Gunthorpe , Matt Porter , "linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org" List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 02:05:58PM -0000, David Woodhouse wrote: >> >> > >> > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 13:10 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: >> > >> >> Note that you are not describing a normal "DT scenario" here. You are >> >> describing a case in which we screwed up >> > >> > AKA "real world" >> >> No. Absolutely not. That was a screwup, and it needs to be *rare*. The >> excuses you present for it are crappy and uunacceptable. > > That's not helping. The fact is that is has happened. It has happened, yes. But we're describing how things *shall* work going forward. Coping with existing mistakes is a slightly separate issue. (Albeit only slightly since mistakes *will* continue to happen, but hopefully more rarely so our defined processes for coping are based on the assumption that it should be rare) -- dwmw2 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html