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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Michael Srba <Michael.Srba@seznam.cz>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jean-Baptiste Maneyrol <jmaneyrol@invensense.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: iio: imu: mpu6050: Document invensense,icm20608d
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:22:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47d67c82-788e-2ced-54cc-4959c67922fc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220321150411.00002206@Huawei.com>

On 21/03/2022 16:04, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 09:04:11 +0100
> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 20/03/2022 16:12, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:24:03 +0100
>>> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 10/03/2022 19:56, Michael Srba wrote:  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> the thing is, the only reason the different compatible is needed at all
>>>>> is that the chip presents a different WHOAMI, and the invensense,icm20608
>>>>> compatible seems to imply the non-D WHOAMI value.    
>>>>
>>>> But this is a driver implementation issue, not related to bindings.
>>>> Bindings describe the hardware.  
>>>
>>> Indeed, but the key thing here is the WHOAMI register is hardware.
>>>   
>>>>  
>>>>> I'm not sure how the driver would react to both compatibles being present,
>>>>> and looking at the driver code, it seems that icm20608d is not the only
>>>>> fully icm20608-compatible (to the extent of features supported by
>>>>> the driver, and excluding the WHOAMI value) invensense IC, yet none
>>>>> of these other ICs add the invensense,icm20608 compatible, so I guess I
>>>>> don't see a good reason to do something different.    
>>>>
>>>> Probably my question should be asked earlier, when these other
>>>> compatibles were added in such way.
>>>>
>>>> Skipping the DMP core, the new device is fully backwards compatible with
>>>> icm20608.  
>>>
>>> No. It is 'nearly' compatible...  The different WHOAMI value (used
>>> to check the chip is the one we expect) makes it incompatible.  Now we
>>> could change the driver to allow for that bit of incompatibility and
>>> some other drivers do (often warning when the whoami is wrong but continuing
>>> anyway).   
>>
>> Different value of HW register within the same programming model does
>> not make him incompatible. Quite contrary - it is compatible and to
>> differentiate variants you do not need specific compatibles.
> 
> Whilst I don't personally agree with the definition of "compatible"
> and think you are making false distinctions between hardware and software...
> 
> I'll accept Rob's statement of best practice.  However we can't just
> add a compatible that won't work if someone uses it on a new board
> that happens to run an old kernel.
> 

The please explain me how this patch (the compatible set I proposed)
fails to work in such case? How a new board with icm20608 (not
icm20608d!) fails to work?

To remind, the compatible has a format of:
comaptible = "new", "old"
e.g.: "invensense,icm20608d", "invensense,icm20608"

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-21 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 13:39 [PATCH 0/2] iio: imu: inv_mpu6050: Add support for ICM-20608-D michael.srba
2022-03-10 13:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: iio: imu: mpu6050: Document invensense,icm20608d michael.srba
2022-03-10 16:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-10 18:56     ` Michael Srba
2022-03-10 21:24       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-20 15:12         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-21  8:04           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-21 15:04             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-21 15:22               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2022-03-21 17:42                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-21 18:07                   ` Michael Srba
2022-03-22 10:19                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-22 10:41                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-22 20:22                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-22 10:23                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-22 20:29                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-10 13:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] iio: imu: inv_mpu6050: Add support for ICM-20608-D michael.srba
2022-03-10 13:58   ` Jean-Baptiste Maneyrol

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