From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [sodaville] [PATCH 02/11] x86: Add device tree support Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:06:52 -0800 Message-ID: <4D22103C.2080705@linux.intel.com> References: <1290706801-7323-1-git-send-email-bigeasy@linutronix.de> <1290706801-7323-3-git-send-email-bigeasy@linutronix.de> <1290807736.32570.143.camel@pasglop> <20101128134907.GA30784@www.tglx.de> <20101230082654.GB11721@angua.secretlab.ca> <4D21F3DB.90504@linux.intel.com> <4D21F718.8010600@linux.intel.com> <20110103175254.GD2522@angua.secretlab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20110103175254.GD2522@angua.secretlab.ca> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Grant Likely Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sodaville@linutronix.de, Rob Landley , devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On 01/03/2011 09:52 AM, Grant Likely wrote: > > I think we've got an impedance mismatch. > > The whole point of the ppc boot wrapper, and the kind of boot wrapper > that I'm talking about here, is that it becomes part of the kernel > image and is *not* part of firmware. ie. an executable wrapper which > carries the kernel as it's payload. I'm wary too of depending of > firmware to get things right because it can be so painful to change. > The problem with that kind of boot wrapper is that they are per-architecture, increasing the differences between architectures needlessly, and they are often implemented very poorly. As such, it's nice to have an ultimate fallback that doesn't depend on anything outside ours -- the kernel community's -- control. -hpa