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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Wei Fang <wei.fang@nxp.com>, "andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:04:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cf8d73e-9f14-fe8d-d6e2-551920c1f29e@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvY7Vjtj+WV3BI59@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On 12/08/2022 14:36, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 02:25:42PM +0300, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> hibernation is a feature, but 'disable-hibernation' is not. DTS
>> describes the hardware, not policy or driver bejhvior. Why disabling
>> hibernation is a property of hardware? How you described, it's not,
>> therefore either property is not for DT or it has to be phrased
>> correctly to describe the hardware.
> 
> However, older DT descriptions need to be compatible with later kernels,
> and as existing setups have hibernation enabled, introducing a property
> to _enable_ hibernation (which implies if the property is not present,
> hibernation is disabled) changes the behaviour with older DT, thereby
> breaking backwards compatibility.
> 
> Yes, DT needs to describe hardware, but there are also other
> constraints too.

I did not propose a property to enable hibernation. The property must
describe hardware, so this piece is missing, regardless whether the
logic in the driver is "enable" or "disable".

The hardware property for example is: "broken foo, so hibernation should
be disabled" or "engineer forgot to wire cables, so hibernation won't
work"...

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-12 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-12 14:50 [PATCH net 0/2] Add DT property to disable hibernation mode wei.fang
2022-08-12 14:50 ` [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property wei.fang
2022-08-12  7:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12  9:02     ` Wei Fang
2022-08-12 11:25       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12 11:36         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 12:04           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2022-08-12 12:30             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 12:36               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12 14:34                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-15  8:51         ` Wei Fang
2022-08-15  9:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 14:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-15  6:49     ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  1:20       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-18  1:29         ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  1:44           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-18  1:50             ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  2:01             ` Wei Fang
2022-08-12 15:13   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-12 15:36   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-12 14:50 ` [PATCH net 2/2] net: phy: at803x: Add disable hibernation mode support wei.fang

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