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From: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, grant.likely@secretlab.ca,
	rob.herring@calxeda.com, thomas.abraham@linaro.org,
	t.figa@samsung.com, sw0312.kim@samsung.com,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 01/15] [media] Add common video interfaces OF bindings documentation
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:51:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50E4ABD8.4040902@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1301021220370.7829@axis700.grange>

Hi Guennadi,

On 01/02/2013 12:31 PM, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> Hi Sylwester
>
> Thanks for picking up these patches! In general both look good to me, just
> a couple of nit-picks, that I couldn't help remarking:-)

Sure, thanks again for the feedback.

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
>
>> From: Guennadi Liakhovetski<g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
>>
>> This patch adds a document describing common OF bindings for video
>> capture, output and video processing devices. It is curently mainly
>> focused on video capture devices, with data busses defined by
>> standards like ITU-R BT.656 or MIPI-CSI2.
>> It also documents a method of describing data links between devices.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Guennadi Liakhovetski<g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
>> Signed-off-by: Sylwester Nawrocki<s.nawrocki@samsung.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Stephen Warren<swarren@nvidia.com>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> This is basically a resend of my previous version of this patch [1],
>> with just a few typo/grammar issue corrections.
>>
>> [1] http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/15911/
>> ---
>>   .../devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt |  198 ++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 198 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000..d1eea35
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
>> @@ -0,0 +1,198 @@
>> +Common bindings for video data receiver and transmitter interfaces
>> +
>> +General concept
>> +---------------
>> +
>> +Video data pipelines usually consist of external devices, e.g. camera sensors,
>> +controlled over an I2C, SPI or UART bus, and SoC internal IP blocks, including
>> +video DMA engines and video data processors.
>> +
>> +SoC internal blocks are described by DT nodes, placed similarly to other SoC
>> +blocks.  External devices are represented as child nodes of their respective
>> +bus controller nodes, e.g. I2C.
>> +
>> +Data interfaces on all video devices are described by their child 'port' nodes.
>> +Configuration of a port depends on other devices participating in the data
>> +transfer and is described by 'endpoint' subnodes.
>> +
>> +dev {
>> +	#address-cells =<1>;
>> +	#size-cells =<0>;
>> +	port@0 {
>> +		endpoint@0 { ... };
>> +		endpoint@1 { ... };
>> +	};
>> +	port@1 { ... };
>> +};
>> +
>> +If a port can be configured to work with more than one other device on the same
>> +bus, an 'endpoint' child node must be provided for each of them.  If more than
>> +one port is present in a device node or there is more than one endpoint at a
>> +port, a common scheme, using '#address-cells', '#size-cells' and 'reg' properties
>> +is used.
>> +
>> +Two 'endpoint' nodes are linked with each other through their 'remote-endpoint'
>> +phandles.  An endpoint subnode of a device contains all properties needed for
>> +configuration of this device for data exchange with the other device.  In most
>> +cases properties at the peer 'endpoint' nodes will be identical, however
>> +they might need to be different when there is any signal modifications on the
>> +bus between two devices, e.g. there are logic signal inverters on the lines.
>> +
>> +Required properties
>> +-------------------
>> +
>> +If there is more than one 'port' or more than one 'endpoint' node following
>> +properties are required in relevant parent node:
>> +
>> +- #address-cells : number of cells required to define port number, should be 1.
>> +- #size-cells    : should be zero.
>> +
>> +Optional endpoint properties
>> +----------------------------
>> +
>> +- remote-endpoint : phandle to an 'endpoint' subnode of the other device node.
>
> This spacing before ":" looks strange to me. I personally prefer the
> normal English rule - "x: y," i.e. no space before and a space after, but
> I wouldn't remark on your choice of a space on each side in this specific
> case, if it was consistent. Whereas sometimes having one space and
> sometimes having none looks weird to me. I would go for "no space before
> ':'" throughout this document.

Gah, it was so close! ;) Sorry about it, it looked more readable to me 
that way.
And I've checked other bindings' documentation and there was many files 
having
space on both sides of a colon. Nevertheless, I will change it back to the
original form.

>> +- slave-mode : a boolean property, run the link in slave mode. Default is master
>> +  mode.
>> +- bus-width : number of data lines, valid for parallel buses.
>
> As we discussed before, both "busses" and "buses" spellings are commonly
> used at different locations around the world, but I think we should stick
> to only one of them in a single document. It looks weird to have "buses"
> in one line and "busses" in the following one.

True, I think that was the one occurrence I'd noticed and have forgotten to
correct then. I'll fix it, thanks for pointing out.

>> +- data-shift: on parallel data busses, if bus-width is used to specify the
>> +  number of data lines, data-shift can be used to specify which data lines are
>> +  used, e.g. "bus-width=<10>; data-shift=<2>;" means, that lines 9:2 are used.
>> +- hsync-active : active state of HSYNC signal, 0/1 for LOW/HIGH respectively.
>> +- vsync-active : active state of VSYNC signal, 0/1 for LOW/HIGH respectively.
>> +  Note, that if HSYNC and VSYNC polarities are not specified, embedded
>> +  synchronization may be required, where supported.
>> +- data-active : similar to HSYNC and VSYNC, specifies data line polarity.
>> +- field-even-active: field signal level during the even field data transmission.
>> +- pclk-sample : rising (1) or falling (0) edge to sample the pixel clock signal.
>
> Yes, it was in my original document too, but don't we mean "sample data on
> rising (1) or falling (0) edge of the pixel clock signal?"

Oops, I've managed to overlooked this. Certainly, it wasn't supposed to mean
sampling the clock signal. BTW, I had some doubts about this property. 
On the
transmitter side we more care about driving, rather than sampling data. And
usually when a transmitter drives data line at one clock edge type (e.g. 
rising)
then the receiver samples data on the other edge (e.g. falling).

In the display timing bindings there is a definitions like:

+ - pixelclk-active: with
+			- active high = drive pixel data on rising edge/
+					sample data on falling edge
+			- active low  = drive pixel data on falling edge/
+					sample data on rising edge
+			- ignored     = ignored

where:

+    <1>: high active
+    <0>: low active
+    omitted: not used on hardware


Then in our case, e.g. pclk-sample = <1>; on the transmitter side would mean
the receiver, which also has same pclk-sample = <1>; specified in its node,
has to sample data on rising clock edge and the transmitter is driving data
on falling edge, right ?

---

Thanks,
Sylwester

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-02 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-31 16:02 [PATCH RFC v2 00/15] V4L2 device tree bindings and OF helpers Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/15] [media] Add common video interfaces OF bindings documentation Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-02 11:31   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-02 21:51     ` Sylwester Nawrocki [this message]
2013-01-02 22:01       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-03 17:03   ` [PATCH RFC v3 " Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-21 10:31     ` Hans Verkuil
2013-01-23 10:21       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-23 12:59         ` Hans Verkuil
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/15] [media] Add a V4L2 OF parser Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-02 11:58   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-01-02 22:11     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
     [not found]   ` <1356969793-27268-3-git-send-email-s.nawrocki-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-03 17:09     ` [PATCH RFC v3 " Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-18 15:48       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-01-18 19:02         ` Hans Verkuil
2013-01-21 11:35       ` Hans Verkuil
2013-01-23 10:44         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/15] s5p-csis: Add device tree support Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/15] s5p-fimc: Support for FIMC devices instantiated from the device tree Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/15] s5p-fimc: Support for FIMC-LITE " Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/15] s5p-fimc: Change platform subdevs registration method Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/15] s5p-fimc: Support camera media device initialization on DT systems Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/15] s5p-fimc: Add device tree based sensors registration Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/15] s5p-fimc: Use pinctrl API for camera ports configuration Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/15] ARM: EXYNOS4: Add OF_DEV_AUXDATA for FIMC, FIMC-LITE and CSIS Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/15] ARM: dts: Add camera node exynos4.dtsi Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/15] ARM: dts: Add ISP power domain node for Exynos4x12 Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/15] ARM: dts: Add FIMC and MIPI CSIS device nodes " Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/15] ARM: dts: Add camera pinctrl nodes for Exynos4x12 SoCs Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-12-31 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/15] ARM: dts: Add camera device nodes nodes for PQ board Sylwester Nawrocki

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