From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
davem@davemloft.net, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
David.Laight@aculab.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 ethernet driver
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 19:57:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5153369.PcVDn1cGQl@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140403152746.GQ7528@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Thursday 03 April 2014 16:27:46 Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:21:45AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > - As David Laight pointed out earlier, you must also ensure that
> > you don't have too much /data/ pending in the descriptor ring
> > when you stop the queue. For a 10mbit connection, you have already
> > tested (as we discussed on IRC) that 64 descriptors with 1500 byte
> > frames gives you a 68ms round-trip ping time, which is too much.
> > Conversely, on 1gbit, having only 64 descriptors actually seems
> > a little low, and you may be able to get better throughput if
> > you extend the ring to e.g. 512 descriptors.
>
> You don't manage that by stopping the queue - there's separate interfaces
> where you report how many bytes you've queued (netdev_sent_queue()) and
> how many bytes/packets you've sent (netdev_tx_completed_queue()). This
> allows the netdev schedulers to limit how much data is held in the queue,
> preserving interactivity while allowing the advantages of larger rings.
Ah, I didn't know about these. However, reading through the dql code,
it seems that will not work if the tx reclaim is triggered by a timer,
since it expects to get feedback from the actual hardware behavior. :(
I guess this is (part of) what David Miller also meant by saying it won't
ever work properly.
> > > + phys = dma_map_single(&ndev->dev, skb->data, skb->len, DMA_TO_DEVICE);
> > > + if (dma_mapping_error(&ndev->dev, phys)) {
> > > + dev_kfree_skb(skb);
> > > + return NETDEV_TX_OK;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > + priv->tx_skb[tx_head] = skb;
> > > + priv->tx_phys[tx_head] = phys;
> > > + desc->send_addr = cpu_to_be32(phys);
> > > + desc->send_size = cpu_to_be16(skb->len);
> > > + desc->cfg = cpu_to_be32(DESC_DEF_CFG);
> > > + phys = priv->tx_desc_dma + tx_head * sizeof(struct tx_desc);
> > > + desc->wb_addr = cpu_to_be32(phys);
> >
> > One detail: since you don't have cache-coherent DMA, "desc" will
> > reside in uncached memory, so you try to minimize the number of accesses.
> > It's probably faster if you build the descriptor on the stack and
> > then atomically copy it over, rather than assigning each member at
> > a time.
>
> DMA coherent memory is write combining, so multiple writes will be
> coalesced. This also means that barriers may be required to ensure the
> descriptors are pushed out in a timely manner if something like writel()
> is not used in the transmit-triggering path.
Right, makes sense. There is a writel() right after this, so no need
for extra barriers. We already concluded that the store operation on
uncached memory isn't actually a problem, and Zhangfei Gao did some
measurements to check the overhead of the one read from uncached
memory that is in the tx path, which was lost in the noise.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-03 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-01 13:27 [PATCH v5 0/3] add hisilicon hip04 ethernet driver Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] Documentation: add Device tree bindings for Hisilicon hip04 ethernet Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1396358832-15828-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 MDIO driver Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-04 15:42 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-04 17:48 ` David Miller
2014-04-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 ethernet driver Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1396358832-15828-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-02 9:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02 9:51 ` zhangfei
2014-04-02 15:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02 10:04 ` David Laight
2014-04-02 15:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03 6:24 ` Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <CAMj5BkgfwE1hHpVeqH9WRitwCB30x3c4w0qw7sXT3PiOV-QcPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-03 8:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03 15:22 ` David Miller
2014-04-03 15:38 ` zhangfei
2014-04-03 15:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 15:42 ` David Laight
2014-04-03 15:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 17:57 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-04-04 6:52 ` Zhangfei Gao
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-05 4:35 [PATCH v7 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-05 4:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-07 18:53 ` David Miller
2014-04-08 8:07 ` zhangfei
2014-04-08 8:30 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D0F6F1434-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-08 9:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 14:47 ` zhangfei
2014-04-18 13:17 ` zhangfei
2014-04-07 18:56 ` David Miller
2014-04-04 15:16 [PATCH v6 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1396624597-390-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-04 15:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-28 15:35 [PATCH v4 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-28 15:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14 [PATCH v3 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1395670496-17381-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-24 15:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 4:06 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-25 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:16 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-26 9:55 ` David Laight
2014-03-25 17:17 ` David Laight
2014-03-25 17:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-25 17:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-27 12:53 ` zhangfei
2014-03-24 16:32 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-24 17:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 17:35 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27 6:27 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:09 [PATCH v2 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-22 1:18 ` zhangfei
2014-03-22 8:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-18 8:40 [PATCH 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1395132017-15928-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18 8:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
[not found] ` <1395132017-15928-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18 10:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 9:51 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:17 ` Rob Herring
2014-03-26 14:22 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-18 11:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-20 14:00 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-20 14:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201403201531.20416.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-21 5:19 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 7:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-21 7:56 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 8:17 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 10:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 13:23 ` Zhangfei Gao
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