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From: Florian Fainelli <florian@openwrt.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	"Gregory Clément" <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
	"Lior Amsalem" <alior@marvell.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Andy Fleming" <afleming@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: Fixed PHY Device Tree usage?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 01:29:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E09163.8050206@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6tzMhjH8nxJ1Ezrc43DqCmv-pWRW2NsXa=fP-6Fh_t5PA@mail.gmail.com>

Le 13/07/2013 00:44, Grant Likely a écrit :
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Florian Fainelli <florian@openwrt.org> wrote:
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>> 2013/7/10 Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>:
>>> Dear Florian Fainelli,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:29:44 +0100, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>>
>>>>>                  };
>>>>>
>>>>>                  phy1: ethernet-phy@1 {
>>>>>                          ... all the properties you listed ...
>>>>>                          ... maybe the "id" property is not needed
>>>>>                              because of the phandle ...
>>>>>                  };
>>>>>          };
>>>>>
>>>>>          soc {
>>>>>                  ethernet@0 {
>>>>>                          phy = <&phy0>;
>>>>>                          ...
>>>>>                  };
>>>>>
>>>>>                  ethernet@1 {
>>>>>                          phy = <&phy1>;
>>>>>                          ...
>>>>>                  };
>>>>>          };
>>>>>
>>>>> or do you have in mind another representation?
>>>>
>>>> Not really this is more or less what I had in mind. I am wondering
>>>> whether we should really declare the "mdio-fixed" node, or if we
>>>> should not rather make the following:
>>>>
>>>> - declare all PHY nodes in the system as sub nodes of their belonging
>>>> real hardware MDIO bus node
>>>> - flag specific PHY nodes as "fixed" with a "fixed-link" boolean for instance
>>>> - if we see that flag, make that specific PHY node bind to the
>>>> fixed-phy driver instead
>>>
>>> So the fixed PHY driver is going to travel through *all* nodes of the
>>> DT, and whenever some random node has a "fixed" property, it's going to
>>> say it corresponds to a fixed PHY? That doesn't seem like a good idea.
>>
>> Why not? Since we are already have to scan the entire MDIO bus we are
>> attached to, when we encounter such a PHY node with the special
>> "fixed" properties, we just call fixed_phy_add() with the right
>> parameters and voila. Which is also the reason why I was suggesting to
>> put the "fixed" PHY nodes as sub-nodes of the real MDIO node such that
>> we have this logic only in one place.
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. The concept
> of a dummy phy is really a Linux kernel internal detail. Creating some
> kind of dummy MDIO bus node does not describe the hardware. There is
> already support in the kernel for Ethernet MACs connected directly to
> a switch or other device. It is far better to describe how the MAC
> needs to be configured than to invent a non-existent phy. Search for
> "fixed-link" in the kernel tree to see how it is used.

Errm, fixed-link is deprecated according to the comment which parses it. 
In fact, the code parsing this special property does not parse all the 
integers representing the fixed-link. But fair enough, if that is the 
way to go, then let's stick with it.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130709183312.6c4d052d@skate>
     [not found] ` <CAGVrzcZ7ZLSDy5sTUR_XuSAUH=5q8ddiXx5n1y680WwGrdFfTw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-09 18:02   ` Fixed PHY Device Tree usage? Florian Fainelli
2013-07-10 16:22     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-10 16:29       ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-10 16:39         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-10 17:23           ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 11:56             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-12 12:05               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 13:04                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-12 22:44             ` Grant Likely
2013-07-12 23:29               ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2013-07-13 17:02               ` Thomas Petazzoni

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