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From: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sricharan R <r.sricharan@ti.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, tony@atomide.com, rnayak@ti.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] DRIVERS: IRQCHIP: Add crossbar irqchip driver
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:42:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52326D6B.2010003@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309130138550.4089@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Thursday 12 September 2013 08:26 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Thursday 12 September 2013 06:22 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> Now the real question is, how that expansion mechanism is supposed to
>>> work. There are two possible scenarios:
>>>
>>> 1) Expand the number of handled interrupts beyond the GIC capacity:
>>>
>>>    That requires a mechanism in CROSSBAR to map several CROSSBAR
>>>    interrupts to a particular GIC interrupt and provide a demux
>>>    mechanism to invoke the shared handlers.
>>>
>> This is not possible in hardware and not supported. Hardware has
>> no notion of muxing multiple IRQ's to generate 1 IRQ or ack etc
>> functionality. Its a simple MUX to tie knots between input and output
>> wires.
> 
> It's not a MUX. It's a ROUTING mechanism. That's similar to the
> mechanisms which are used by MSI[X]. We assign arbitrary interrupt
> numbers to a device and route them to some underlying limited hardware
> interrupt controller.
> 
>>> 2) Provide a mapping mechanism between possibly 250 interrupt numbers
>>>    and a limitation of a total 160 active interrupts by the underlying
>>>    GIC.
>>>
>> This is the need and problem we are trying to solve.
> 
> Let me summarize:
> 
>    - GIC supports up to 160 interrupts
> 
>    - CROSSBAR supports up to 250 interrupts 
> 
>    - CROSSBAR routes up to 160 out of 250 interrupts to the GIC ones
> 
>    - Drivers request a CROSSBAR interrupt number which must be mapped
>      to some arbitrary available GIC irq number
> 
Correct.

> So basically the CROSSBAR mechanism is pretty much the same as MSI[X]
> just in a different flavour and with a different set of semantics and
> limitations, i.e. poor mans MSI[X] with a new level of bogosity.
> 
> So if CROSSBAR is going to be the new fangled SoC MSI[X] long term
> equivalent then you better provide some infrastructure for that and
> make the drivers ready to use it. Maybe check with the PCI/MSI folks
> to share some of the interfaces.
>
> If that whole thing is another onetime HW designers wet dream, then
> please go back to the limited but completely functional (Who is going
> to use more than 160 peripheral interrupts????) device tree model. I
> really have no interest to support hardware designer brain farts.
> 
Thanks for clear NAK for irqchip approach. I should have looped you
in the discussion where I was also suggesting against the irqchip
approach. We will try to look at MSI stuff but if its get too
complicated am going to fall-back to the initial probe based
approach to achieve the functionality.

Thanks again for clear direction and useful discussion.

Regards,
Santosh

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-13  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-12 15:39 [RFC PATCH 0/4] DRIVERS: IRQCHIP: Add crossbar irqchip driver Sricharan R
2013-09-12 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] " Sricharan R
2013-09-12 20:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309122201530.4089-3cz04HxQygjZikZi3RtOZ1XZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-12 20:48       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-09-12 22:22         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 22:51           ` Santosh Shilimkar
     [not found]             ` <5232457A.8080709-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13  0:26               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-13  1:42                 ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2013-09-13  8:32                   ` Sricharan R
2013-09-13 14:24                   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309131142540.4089-3cz04HxQygjZikZi3RtOZ1XZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 14:55                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-09-18 15:07                         ` Santosh Shilimkar
     [not found]                           ` <5239C19E.1090609-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18 22:31                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-17 12:26                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-09-18 13:52                       ` Sricharan R
2013-09-18 15:25                         ` Sricharan R
2013-09-18 22:13                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-12 20:54   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-09-12 21:35     ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309122334370.4089-3cz04HxQygjZikZi3RtOZ1XZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-12 22:12         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-09-20  8:58   ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]     ` <20130920085830.GF17453-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-20  9:59       ` Sricharan R
2013-09-12 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] ARM: DTS: DRA: Add crossbar device binding Sricharan R
2013-09-12 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] ARM: DTS: DRA: Replace peripheral interrupt numbers with crossbar inputs Sricharan R
2013-09-12 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ARM: DRA: Kconfig: Enable crossbar irqchip driver for DRA7xx Sricharan R

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