From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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Shaik Ameer Basha
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Grant Grundler <grundler-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe
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Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Thierry Reding
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Dave Martin <Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Describing arbitrary bus mastering relationships in DT
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 21:53:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5235938.KqUI5iMopI@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537112FC.1040204-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
On Monday 12 May 2014 12:29:16 Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 05/12/2014 12:10 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 12 May 2014 10:19:16 Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> IIRC, the current Nouveau support for Tegra even makes use of that
> >> feature, although I think that's a temporary thing that we're hoping to
> >> get rid of once the Tegra support in Nouveau gets more mature.
> >
> > But the important point here is that you wouldn't use the dma-mapping
> > API to manage this. First of all, the CPU is special anyway, but also
> > if you do a device-to-device DMA into the GPU address space and that
> > ends up being redirected to memory through the IOMMU, you still wouldn't
> > manage the I/O page tables through the interfaces of the device doing the
> > DMA, but through some private interface of the GPU.
>
> Why not? If something wants to DMA to a memory region, irrespective of
> whether the GPU MMU (or any MMU) is in between those master transactions
> and the RAM or not, surely the driver should always use the DMA mapping
> API to set that up? Anything else just means using custom APIs, and
> isn't the whole point of the DMA mapping API to provide a standard API
> for that purpose?
It sounds like an abuse of the hardware if you use the GPU's IOMMU
to set up DMA for a random non-GPU DMA master. I'd prefer not to go
there and instead use swiotlb.
Arnd
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2014-05-01 17:32 [RFC] Describing arbitrary bus mastering relationships in DT Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140501173248.GD3732-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 11:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-02 12:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-02 13:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-02 15:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-02 17:43 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140502174301.GE3805-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 15:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 10:33 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140509103309.GA3875-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 11:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 14:59 ` Grant Grundler
2014-05-02 18:55 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5363EA31.3000509-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 19:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 10:45 ` Dave Martin
2014-05-02 18:50 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5363E8E9.6000908-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 19:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 10:56 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140509105638.GB3921-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 16:19 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5370F484.9030209-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-12 18:29 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <537112FC.1040204-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-05-12 20:02 ` Grant Grundler
2014-05-02 16:19 ` Dave Martin
2014-05-02 16:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-02 17:31 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140502173120.GD3805-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 18:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20140502181750.GD3179-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 14:16 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20140509141633.GD3921-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-05-02 20:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-09 13:26 ` Dave Martin
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