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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "William Zhang" <william.zhang@broadcom.com>,
	"Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	"Anand Gore" <anand.gore@broadcom.com>,
	"Kursad Oney" <kursad.oney@broadcom.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Andre Przywara" <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	"Alexandre TORGUE" <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	"Rafał Miłecki" <rafal@milecki.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] dt-bindings: serial: add Broadcom's BCMBCA family High Speed UART
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:46:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525384ca-f84e-471c-bc82-0029db6ccb77@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1f06f81-9248-73f3-b586-24e29bb9ab32@broadcom.com>

On 22/11/2023 19:39, William Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/22/2023 07:52 AM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>> On 22.11.2023 16:50, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 22/11/2023 16:49, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>>>>>> For example a year ago I added binding for BCMBCA SoC timer without
>>>>>> actual driver, see e112f2de151b ("dt-bindings: timer: Add Broadcom's
>>>>>> BCMBCA timers").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if we're going to agree on this, but personally I like
>>>>>> describing hardware as much as I can. So it's well documented /
>>>>>> understood and people may eventually write drivers for it. Maybe it's
>>>>>> partially because I come from Broadcom's world that isn't well known
>>>>>> for upstream efforts in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that "brcm,bcmbca-hs-uart" is not describing 
>>>>> hardware. It
>>>>> is saying that all these devices have similar (compatible) programming
>>>>> model, so the OS can use just one compatible. This goes away from pure
>>>>> hardware description into interpretation.
>>>>>
> It is the same hardware IP block used in bcmbca SoCs.  To me, it 
> perfectly describe the hardware IP block and it does not need fallback 
> because there is no fallback.  We did that for SPI controller although 
> it has two revisions of that IP block so we have brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.0 
> and 1.1
> 
>>>>> Rob already commented on such non-SoC compatibles multiple times. I do
>>>>> not see any reason here to not use specific compatible as fallback.
>>>>
> Sorry I missed Rob's comments.  If we have any new rule or notes about 
> this, I would like to check it out.
> 
>>>> Do I get it right we should rather have some base specific compatible
>>>> like: "brcm,bcm63138-hs-uart" and then if anything use fallback to it
>>>> like: "brcm,bcm4908-hs-uart", "brcm,bcm63138-hs-uart"; ?
>>>
>>> Yes, or the other way around, depends which is probably the oldest.
> If we absolutely can not use bcmbca-hs-uart, I would suggest to use 

We can, but I am surprised that you want without any driver. What's the
point of generic compatible?

> bcm63xx-hs-uart to be more soc specific and in fact the oldest SoC have 

What is xx? Wildcard? I mean... ehhh...

Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-22 14:42 [PATCH V2 1/2] dt-bindings: serial: add Broadcom's BCMBCA family High Speed UART Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22 14:42 ` [PATCH V2 2/2] ARM: dts: broadcom: Add BCM63138's high speed UART Rafał Miłecki
2023-12-05 22:44   ` Florian Fainelli
2023-11-22 14:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/2] dt-bindings: serial: add Broadcom's BCMBCA family High Speed UART Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 14:52   ` Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22 15:00     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 15:32       ` Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22 15:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 15:49           ` Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22 15:50             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 15:52               ` Rafał Miłecki
2023-11-22 18:39                 ` William Zhang
2023-11-22 18:46                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2023-11-22 18:56                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 19:28                       ` Florian Fainelli
2023-11-22 19:01                     ` William Zhang

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