From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 2/7] driver/core: Populate IOMMU'able devices in order
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:45:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5283BAAA.4080701@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131113143804.GA11928-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
On 11/13/2013 07:38 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:34:20PM +0000, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 11/11/2013 01:31 AM, Hiroshi Doyu wrote:
>>> An "IOMMU device" on the bus is poplulated first, "IOMMU'able devices"
>>> are done later.
>>>
>>> With CONFIG_OF_IOMMU, "#stream-id-cells" DT binding would be used to
>>> identify whether a device is IOMMU'able or not. If a device is
>>> IOMMU'able, we'll defer to populate that device till an iommu device
>>> is populated. Once an iommu device is populated, "dev->bus->iommu_ops"
>>> is set in the bus. Then, those defered IOMMU'able devices are
>>> populated and configured as IOMMU'abled with help of the already
>>> populated iommu device via iommu_ops->add_device().
>>
>> This looks fairly neat and clean.
>>
>> I'm still worried about using #stream-id-cells in DT nodes though. While
>> I do understand that the *Linux* device model currently only allows each
>> struct device to be affected by a single IOMMU, I worry that encoding
>> that same restriction into DT is a mistake. I'd far rather see a
>> property like:
>>
>> SMMU:
>> smmu: smmu@xxxxxx {
>> #smmu-cells = <1>;
>> }
>>
>> Affected device:
>> smmus = <&smmu 1>;
>> (perhaps with smmu-names too)
>>
>> That would allow the DT to represent basically arbitrary HW configurations.
>>
>> The implementation of this patch would then be almost as trivial; you'd
>> just need to walk the smmus property to find each phandle in turn, just
>> like any other phandle+specifier property, and validate that the SMMU
>> driver was already probe()d for each.
>
> There are a few problems with that:
>
> 1.) It assumes all devices sharing an SMMU have the same number of
> "smmu cells"
The SMMU HW defines how many cells are required to represent the client
stream IDs. So, this isn't a problem.
Are you thinking of cases where an SMMU client issues transactions with
multiple different stream IDs? That is supported by having multiple
entries in the smmus property.
(Assuming that #smmu-cells in the SMMU is <1>)
HW that issues with 1 stream ID:
smmus = <&smmu 123>;
HW that issues with 2 stream IDs:
smmus = <&smmu 123 &smmu 345>;
> 2.) It moves SMMU-specific data out to the device, which makes it
Yes, but I think it's really SMMU-client-specific data not
SMMU-specific. The SMMU doesn't dictate the stream IDs that "clients"
include with their transactions; the "client" HW dictates that.
> impossible to describe more complicated topologies where IDs can be
> remapped/remastered, potentially by multiple SMMUs and/or bus bridges.
I don't think so.
The SMMU "clients" can indicate what stream IDs they use to issue
transactions.
The SMMU DT node or driver itself can still include a table that
describes how it re-writes those stream IDs when forwarding transactions
to the next step. I don't believe there's any requirement that the SMMU
list all its clients and this mapping table in the same property. So,
the SMMU could easily have:
(entries are this SMMU's #stream-id-cells, assumed to be 1 here, then
the next SMMU's #stream-id-cells, assumed to be 2 here)
smmu-stream-id-translations =
<123 1 987>,
<345 0 765>;
> When writing the binding for the ARM SMMU driver, I originally started with
> something similar to what you're suggesting, but was later forced down a
> different route when I realised what sort of systems were being built.
>
> We will have similar problems for PCIe RIDs and GIC DIDs (I spoke about this
> at the ARM mini-summit). They are not fixed across the system: they
> originate from a device, but can change as they traverse the system
> topology.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-13 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-11 8:31 [PATCHv4 0/7] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-1-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 1/7] ARM: tegra: Create a DT header defining SWGROUP ID Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-2-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 22:48 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5282B036.9090604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 10:29 ` Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <20131115122926.9166a6693bb9378a7f2c1526-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 16:44 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 2/7] driver/core: Populate IOMMU'able devices in order Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-3-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 11:39 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20131111113936.GH28302-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 23:30 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 23:34 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5282BAFC.8070405-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 7:23 ` Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <20131113092354.5b65f29bacc4f37083f81e2e-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-13 14:38 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20131113143804.GA11928-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 16:06 ` Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <20131113.180610.823304139654159769.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:31 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20131113173142.GF11928-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:53 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5283BCA0.40300-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 16:16 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-13 17:45 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 3/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Register IOMMU'able devices dynamically Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-4-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 23:53 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 23:58 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 4/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Calculate ASID register offset by ID Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-5-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 0:02 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 5/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Support "mmu-masters" binding Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-6-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 11:35 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20131111113510.GG28302-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 12:03 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-13 0:17 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5282C512.5090900-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 7:45 ` Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <20131113094517.4608edf4302b61e3c4402a25-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:58 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5283BDBF.9020509-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 6:41 ` Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <20131114.084145.998129499909471378.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-13 11:15 ` Kumar Gala
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 6/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Rename hwgrp -> swgroups Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-11 8:31 ` [PATCHv4 7/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Allow duplicate ASID wirte Hiroshi Doyu
[not found] ` <1384158718-4756-8-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 0:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 22:40 ` [PATCHv4 0/7] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5282AE55.1040701-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 6:04 ` Hiroshi Doyu
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