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From: zhangfei <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>
To: Seungwon Jeon <tgih.jun@samsung.com>,
	'Chris Ball' <cjb@laptop.org>, 'Arnd Bergmann' <arnd@arndb.de>,
	'Mike Turquette' <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	'Rob Herring' <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	'Jaehoon Chung' <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	'Kumar Gala' <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	'Haojian Zhuang' <haojian.zhuang@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	patches@linaro.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	'Zhigang Wang' <brooke.wangzhigang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 for k3 platform
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:07:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52AEDED7.2010407@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004c01cefa3f$b9afe880$2d0fb980$%jun@samsung.com>



On 12/16/2013 05:18 PM, Seungwon Jeon wrote:
> On Mon, December 16, 2013, Zhangfei Gao wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 03:29 PM, Seungwon Jeon wrote:
>>> On Mon, December 16, 2013, Zhangfei Gao wrote:
>>>> Dear Seungwon
>>>>
>>>> On 12/16/2013 11:50 AM, Seungwon Jeon wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, December 14, 2013, Zhangfei Gao wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> +	/* SoC portion */
>>>>>> +	dwmmc_0: dwmmc0@fcd03000 {
>>>>>> +		compatible = "hisilicon,hi4511-dw-mshc";
>>>>>> +		reg = <0xfcd03000 0x1000>;
>>>>>> +		interrupts = <0 16 4>;
>>>>>> +		#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>> +		#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>> +		clocks = <&mmc_clock HI3620_SD_CIUCLK>, <&clock HI3620_DDRC_PER_CLK>;
>>>>>> +		clock-names = "ciu", "biu";
>>>>>> +		clock-freq-table =
>>>>>> +		<25000000 0 50000000 25000000 50000000 100000000 0 50000000>;
>>>>> I think it could be solved with mmc->f_min and mmc->f_max(from clock-freq-min-max property)
>>>>> if there is no limitation per each speed mode. As seeing described table, it looks that.
>>>>
>>>> Have tried them before, but unfortunately, they are different.
>>>>
>>>> The controller can not generate clock itself, while depending on the
>>>> outside clock generator, which may require to change clock source in
>>>> differnt mode.
>>>>
>>>> The value we want is set the capacibility of the clock input and the max
>>>> clock freq where mmc works stable in that mode, which may be different
>>>> in different mode.
>>>>
>>>> clock-freq-min-max will set the value for set_ios.
>>>> For example, we use 25M as clock capability when init, which can not be
>>>> set as freq-min, and used as set_ios, where 400K should be used,
>>>> otherwise init definitely fail.
>>> Can you check 'f_init' within 'drivers/mmc/core/core.c' file?
>>> If you set 'f_min = 25000000' for init-sequence, mmc_set_ios() will pass that rate through
>> 'ios.clock'
>>> Then, dw_mmc-k3 can do clk_set_rate() with 25MHz at dw_mci_k3_set_ios().
>>
>> This means controller directly use 25M init emmc and sd card, it will fail.
>> We still need 400K init freq, while the input clock source is 25M,
>> divided by the controller.
>>
>>> And other required speeds for each mode seem not specific compared with standard spec.
>>> Also clk_set_rate() would be possible with 'ios.clock' instead of specific table.
>>> I just referred your example's clock-freq-table above.
>> There also some controller limitation currently.
>> In some mode, the controller only works well in the limited freq.
>> For example UHS_SDR104_MAX_DTR 208000000 can not be used, only half may
>> be reached, at least currently
> Ok. I see your condition. I misunderstood a little bit.
> I wonder whether limitation is only max frequency(SDR104 or HS200) except for init-freq.
> How about other mode? Working is fine with normal clock rate(from clock-freq-table)?
> 

The root cause is the controller can not generate stable clock itself,
but depends on outside clock source, which is varying, and driver need
to decide input clock rate / choose clock source according to the
working mode.

Three cases here:
1. Input rate for init are diferent for different controller, not the
init 400K, some are 13M, others are 25M, since different clock source.
This can be easily solved by clock-freq-init = <25000000>

2. There is maxmum limit, also can be easily solved by define CLK_MAX.
For example, CLK_MAX = 180M.

3. However some mode can not use the max speed from ios->clock
for example UHS_SDR104_MAX_DTR 208000000 can not be used, only half may
be reached, at least currently.

The third case is current limitation, after this limitation is solved,
we can switch to ios->clock directly.

Considering all these cases, we think using table is more suitable now.

Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-16 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-14  2:12 [PATCH v5 0/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-14  2:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] mmc: dw_mmc: use slot-gpio to handle cd pin Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-14  2:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 for k3 platform Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-16  3:50   ` Seungwon Jeon
2013-12-16  5:05     ` zhangfei
2013-12-16  7:29       ` Seungwon Jeon
2013-12-16  8:08         ` zhangfei
2013-12-16  9:18           ` Seungwon Jeon
2013-12-16 11:07             ` zhangfei [this message]
2013-12-16 13:12   ` Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-20  2:31     ` zhangfei
2013-12-26  4:33     ` Jaehoon Chung
2013-12-27  6:13       ` zhangfei
2013-12-14  2:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] clk: hisilicon: add hi3620_mmc_clks Zhangfei Gao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-09 14:35 [PATCH v7 0/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 Zhangfei Gao
     [not found] ` <1389278112-7099-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-09 14:35   ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 for k3 platform Zhangfei Gao
2014-01-09 14:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-01-10 13:39     ` Seungwon Jeon
2014-01-10 14:12       ` zhangfei
2014-01-13  2:09         ` Seungwon Jeon
2014-01-13  2:37           ` zhangfei
2014-01-13  5:32             ` Seungwon Jeon
2014-01-13  8:30               ` zhangfei
2014-01-14  9:38                 ` Seungwon Jeon
2014-01-14  9:47                   ` zhangfei
2013-12-28 14:34 [PATCH v6 0/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-28 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 for k3 platform Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-29 21:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-29 23:55     ` Jaehoon Chung
2013-12-30  2:32       ` Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-30 17:19         ` zhangfei
2013-12-30 20:27           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-31  4:43             ` zhangfei
2013-12-31 13:20     ` Gerhard Sittig
2014-01-02  2:19       ` zhangfei
2014-01-02  3:07   ` Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-11 14:02 [PATCH v4 0/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-11 14:02 ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: dw_mmc: add dw_mmc-k3 for k3 platform Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-11 14:49   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-11 15:36     ` zhangfei
2013-12-11 15:53       ` zhangfei
2013-12-11 20:12       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201312112112.52746.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-12 13:27           ` zhangfei
2013-12-12 14:13             ` Zhangfei Gao
2013-12-12 20:40             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-13  2:57               ` zhangfei

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