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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-ide-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Oliver Schinagl <oliver-dxLnbx3+1qmEVqv0pETR8A@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Zhu
	<Hong-Xing.Zhu-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org,
	Maxime Ripard
	<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 09/13] ARM: sunxi: Add support for Allwinner SUNXi SoCs sata to ahci_platform
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:01:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52DC2F21.30909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140119195642.GU15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

On 01/19/2014 08:56 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 01/19/2014 01:22 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:48:51AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> +	timeout = 0x100000;
>>>> +	do {
>>>> +		reg_val = sunxi_getbits(reg_base + AHCI_PHYCS0R, 0x7, 28);
>>>> +	} while (--timeout && (reg_val != 0x2));
>>>> +	if (!timeout) {
>>>> +		dev_err(dev, "PHY power up failed.\n");
>>>> +		return -EIO;
>>>> +	}
>>>
>>> This is not a good way to detect failure - there's several things wrong
>>> here.
>>>
>>> First, how long does sunxi_getbits() take?  What does that depend on?
>>> Therefore, how long does it take to time out?
>>
>> You're interpreting the timeout in the above code as an actual timeout, but
>> that is not what it is, it is a means to avoid looping forever if something
>> is seriously amiss. The only time I've ever seen the timeout trigger is when
>> I forgot to enable some clks iirc.
>>
>> I can rename the variable from timeout to max_tries to make this more clear.
>>
>>> Secondly, what if the success condition becomes true at the same time that
>>> a timeout occurs?
>>
>> We should never get anywhere near timeout becoming 0, so if both happen at
>> the same time, then something is pretty seriously broken and the returning of
>> an error as the code does now is the right thing to do.
>
> Yes... and if we look back in history, there's been lots of stuff just
> like this where the loop has had to have the number of iterations
> increased as CPUs have become faster and compilers become better?
>
> So... my question stands: but let me put it a different way in two parts:
>
> 1. What is the maximum expected time for the success condition to be
>     satisfied?

TBH, I don't have a clue this code comes from the android driver (never an
excuse, I know) and we don't have any documentation other then the android
driver.

> 2. How long does it actually take for the loop to time out in existing
>     CPUs/compilers?

I don't know either. I understand where you're coming from, and I believe
that the best way to solve this is to take your suggested implementation, start
with a way too high timeout, and add a debug print to see how much time is left
after a successfull phy_init, then do a couple of test runs to get a ballpark
figure for how long we need to wait, multiply that by 5 to be on the safe side,
and use that.

Does that sound like a plan ?

Regards,

Hans

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-19 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-18 23:48 [RFC v3 00/13] ahci: add sunxi driver and cleanup imx driver Hans de Goede
     [not found] ` <1390088935-7193-1-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 01/13] libahci: Allow drivers to override start_engine Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-2-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19  4:46       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140119044643.GH3640-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 18:48           ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 02/13] sata-highbank: Remove unnecessary ahci_platform.h include Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-3-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 11:15       ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 03/13] ahci-platform: Fix clk enable/disable unbalance on suspend/resume Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-4-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 11:14       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140119111412.GA11123-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 18:47           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <52DC1DAA.3010403-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:15               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140119191554.GB32165-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:52                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <52DC2CF5.5080109-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20 12:26                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 04/13] ahci-platform: Undo pdata->resume on resume failure Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-5-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 11:27       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140119112737.GC11123-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 18:40           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <52DC1C15.1030107-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:13               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140119191349.GA32165-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:34                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <52DC28DB.7070804-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:42                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20140119194226.GE32165-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:53                           ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 05/13] ahci-platform: Pass ahci_host_priv ptr to ahci_platform_data init method Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-6-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 11:30       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140119113051.GD11123-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 18:51           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <52DC1EC4.3090807-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:17               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140119191706.GC32165-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:56                   ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                     ` <52DC2DD9.7070403-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20 12:28                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 06/13] ahci-platform: Add support for devices with more then 1 clock Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-7-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 12:38       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20140119123854.GP15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:20           ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 07/13] ahci-platform: Add support for an optional regulator for sata-target power Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 08/13] ahci-platform: Allow specifying platform_data through of_device_id Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-9-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 11:38       ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-19 12:30         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20140119123055.GO15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 13:19             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140119113838.GE11123-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 18:56           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <52DC1FF5.80101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:22               ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-20  8:24     ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]       ` <20140120082438.GH16215-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20  8:35         ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-20  9:09           ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]             ` <20140120090950.GI16215-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20  9:17               ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-20  9:57                 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 09/13] ARM: sunxi: Add support for Allwinner SUNXi SoCs sata to ahci_platform Hans de Goede
2014-01-19 12:22     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]       ` <20140119122216.GM15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:07         ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-19 19:56           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <20140119195642.GU15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 20:01               ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 10/13] ahci_imx: Adjust for ahci_platform managing the clocks Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-11-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 12:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20140119124134.GQ15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:30           ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]             ` <52DC27DD.5030309-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:32               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20140119193258.GT15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:38                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 11/13] ahci-imx: Don't create a nested platform device from probe Hans de Goede
     [not found]     ` <1390088935-7193-12-git-send-email-hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 12:25       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20140119122540.GN15937-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-19 19:08           ` Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 12/13] ARM: sun4i: dts: Add ahci / sata support Hans de Goede
2014-01-18 23:48   ` [RFC v3 13/13] ARM: sun7i: " Hans de Goede
2014-01-19  9:52   ` [RFC v3 00/13] ahci: add sunxi driver and cleanup imx driver Russell King - ARM Linux

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