From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Ian Campbell <ijc-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org,
rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: devicetree repository separation/migration
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:14:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5303DB5B.2090505@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140218181854.GB7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
On 2/18/2014 10:18 AM, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 04:57:50PM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 01:05:44PM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> ...
>>> - Is the Linux development workflow ready for devicetree to move out
>>> of the Linux Kernel?
>>
>> I hope so since keeping the devicetrees in sync with the kernel is a
>> pain for all external users.
>
> Well, I haven't heard any screams yet. I suspect people are waiting for
> details on the exact form it would take before complaining...
< snip >
Let me join the chorus of screams.
I would venture that the number of linux kernel developers actively
touching device tree source files (and impacted by changes to them)
is vastly larger than any other set of developers.
My experience in the kernel is already that finding working device
tree fragments that match current under development code is difficult.
(I am not trying to generalize for all systems, just the ones I use.)
Moving the device tree source files out of the kernel git tree will
only make things worse.
-Frank
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2014-02-17 18:05 devicetree repository separation/migration Jason Cooper
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2014-02-18 14:34 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 15:57 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140218155750.GS17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 18:18 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` < CACxGe6vU3j4-UtUtxBkT=Mf+AeLVxBcWicGqQhcGVZXnEBUkig@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20140218181854.GB7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:09 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5303AFDC.9010908-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:22 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 19:47 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMhvoB7vRf3H1kMaL5+MgZ2gJy=ZVNU0gsXVye9S4YGBOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:21 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMi8zJXhfj46CLB-_Kk2s4MY9da46DhMoCtRj=zSUiuOGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:44 ` Tim Bird
[not found] ` <CA+bK7J5+n2Se4cLv5WjR5B31ej7FdrGjPcjUULNrhb1UQ7=vmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 9:08 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140219090854.GW17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:16 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53051102.8060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:15 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6uhA6FMR76WJGVEt44x6bQOC=woCkDr6ZUH30hTd8f2wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:37 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-20 4:58 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53058B69.4040502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 8:14 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6ugF2_kzDPLdv-Z1LUnkX4DHq9R45o64kJHVBSQjWFiNg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:38 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 21:15 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-21 18:22 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <7F6C2FEA-D330-4CFA-8DC2-554DB8908EC6-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 21:04 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-19 21:12 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_JsqJG+OXbT7sMiHV2dCx+nf--RidL8MmMd=dy6_gAa0yYcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:20 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMiHOwSYTCUaptacN=_pbXnObU5gqpxQHQ+kRTaW-ow3rA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 11:38 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20140220113832.D9E13C4050F-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 18:27 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <0F360BC4-77AC-44E4-85FA-A8AAA336BA4D-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-22 18:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-21 18:57 ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-20 14:34 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 21:32 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <530522F8.8050102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 15:01 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 9:22 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-19 18:32 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140219183221.GO7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:23 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <FC8FF4FE-E9F5-4C17-BF3A-01ADAA1584D7-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-18 22:14 ` Frank Rowand [this message]
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2014-02-19 18:46 ` Jason Cooper
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2014-02-19 20:18 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5305119F.2070405-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:49 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 20:28 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-19 8:32 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140219083232.GV17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 18:50 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-19 21:09 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-19 21:43 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-20 11:39 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-21 18:28 ` Warner Losh
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2014-02-20 11:39 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-21 1:07 ` Frank Rowand
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2014-02-21 14:11 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-02-21 18:47 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-02-28 8:00 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-24 15:59 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-25 7:26 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-02-25 7:36 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-26 9:00 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-26 9:18 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-03-01 21:04 ` Grant Likely
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