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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux
	<linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab
	<m.chehab-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki
	<s.nawrocki-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Kyungmin Park
	<kyungmin.park-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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	"linux-media-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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	Philipp Zabel
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:20:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532BF663.602@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4700752.xAVjk21KIL@avalon>

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On 20/03/14 20:49, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

>> The CPU is the _controlling_ component - it's the component that has to
>> configure the peripherals so they all talk to each other in the right
>> way.  Therefore, the view of it needs to be CPU centric.
>>
>> If we were providing a DT description for consumption by some other
>> device in the system, then the view should be as seen from that device
>> instead.
>>
>> Think about this.  Would you describe a system starting at, say, the
>> system keyboard, and branching all the way through just becuase that's
>> how you interact with it, or would you describe it from the CPUs point
>> of view because that's what has to be in control of the system.
> 
> DT has been designed to represent a control-based view of the system. It does 
> so pretty well using its tree-based model. However, it doesn't have a native 
> way to represent a flow-based graph, hence the OF graph solution we're 
> discussing. The whole point of this proposal is to represent the topology of 
> the media device, not how each entity is controlled.

I agree with Laurent here. I think this is an important point to keep in
mind. We already describe the control graph in the DT via the
parent-child relationships. There's no point in describing the same
thing again with the graph links being discussed.

 Tomi



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-21  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-11 11:45 [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of Philipp Zabel
     [not found] ` < 4339286.FzhQ2m6hoA@avalon>
     [not found] ` < CAL_Jsq+U9zU1i+STLHMBjY5BeEP6djYnJVE5X1ix-D2q_zWztQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` < 20140217181451.7EB7FC4044D@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 20140320153804.35d5b835@samsung.com>
     [not found] ` < 20140310145815.17595C405FA@trevor.secretlab.ca>
2014-02-11 13:56 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 14:52   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-11 15:23     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:36       ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]         ` <1392136617.6943.33.camel-/rZezPiN1rtR6QfukMTsflXZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-11 17:22           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-11 17:41             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-11 21:00               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2014-02-11 21:46             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-11 17:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:30     ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 15:27   ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-17 18:14   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-18  7:06     ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-18 16:26       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` < 1393263389.3091.82.camel@pizza.hi.pengutronix.de>
     [not found]           ` <20140226110114. CF2C7C40A89@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found]         ` <20140218162627.32BA4C40517-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-24 17:36           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 11:01             ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 14:48               ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                 ` <1393426129.3248.64.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-27  8:36                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:06                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:57                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:05                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:33                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-08 11:41                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 23:25                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-03-10 10:18                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                         ` <531D916C.2010903-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10 13:52                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 14:10                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 14:58                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 15:15                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 15:40                                 ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 11:43                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 12:59                                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                       ` <1883687.VdfitvQEN3@samsung.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <avalon@samsung.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <531F08A8.300-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-11 13:16                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 13:27                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 13:44                                             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:23                                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 10:44                                             ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-21 11:47                                               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:16                                                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <532C2D94.4020705-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-21 14:33                                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:09                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-11 13:04                                 ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]                                   ` <531F09E2.3070407-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 17:33                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:01                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:10                                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 15:07                               ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                                 ` <1394550420.3772.29.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-11 15:21                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 18:52                                     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:53                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:36                                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-12 10:25                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-12 10:47                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                 ` <53203B2D.6080201-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 11:21                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 17:54                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                 ` <20140320175432.0559CC4067A-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:16                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:18                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                       ` <20140320181820.GY7528-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:50                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 19:27                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:38                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-20 18:43                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 18:49                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:20                                         ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <20140320153804.35d5b835@ samsung.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <20140320153804.35d5b835-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:48                                     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                       ` <20140320184816.7AB02C4067A-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:52                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 23:12                                           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                             ` <20140320231250.8F0E0C412EA-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 23:26                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:15                                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:44                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21 13:26                                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 14:41                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 11:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <20140217181451.7EB7FC4044D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 10:43       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-18 13:41     ` Philipp Zabel

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