From: Eric Nelson <eric.nelson-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn-UYDU3/A3LUY@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: KConfig and DTS files
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 08:06:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <536B9D86.3020806@boundarydevices.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140508115532.GJ28159-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
Hi Jason,
On 05/08/2014 04:55 AM, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 04:06:49PM -0700, Eric Nelson wrote:
>> Hi Bjorn,
>>
>> On 05/07/2014 03:20 PM, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Eric Nelson
>>> <eric.nelson-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> I still wonder about the choice of not allowing inclusion
>>>> of at least include/generated/autoconf.h.
>>>
>>> Because what you just showed is the use case where you have 1 defconfig, build 1
>>> zImage and then you can have a completely separate delivery of X number of
>>> dtbs, all defining some variant of your original board.
>>> All without recompiling, or even have the source available.
>>>
>>
>> I agree that there's some benefit in being able to generate
>> different DTBs, and it's an advantage (size, speed) to customize
>> the .config as well.
>>
>> When those clearly go together, it seems natural to define them as
>> such.
>
> But they don't. The end goal is that the dtb and the Linux kernel
> _aren't_ tied together. The dtb is shipped with the board, and you
> configure/build your kernel how you want, and boot it.
>
> Look at the dtb as replacement for the mach-type or boardid number.
> It's handed to the OS (not necessarily Linux) by the bootloader to say
> "Here's what you're running on". It's *not* a reflection of the
> configuration of the Linux Kernel. The dtb describes the hardware for a
> specific board. Nothing more, nothing less.
>
Therein lies the rub...
In these days of SOCs with pin-muxing, a single description of
"the board" is overly simplistic.
> Several other projects use the dts files from the kernel tree. Ian
> Campbell even set up a filter-branch version of the dts files and the
> binding docs so that other projects could clone that repo without
> getting the entire Linux commit history. If we tied the dts files to
> Kconfig symbols, we'd make other projects lives much more difficult.
> Not to mention possibly driving Ian to drink excessively. :)
>
Again, this highlights differing goals.
My original question stemmed from a **desire** for customized
DTBs to reflect customization of a board. We have dozens
of custom and semi-custom versions of our tying these parts
together would make things a bit easier.
Regards,
Eric
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-07 17:12 KConfig and DTS files Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536A697D.3020002-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 17:24 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMiHRQV+XngH4ABSeT8KDeP=iKn1ogvTA0j1BdyBwAaWSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 17:47 ` Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536A71AF.1010907-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 17:55 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMhMeLkzEeVKHM2G9Vqth6qypURN6mxbNdySVvKhQBCs5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 3:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-08 6:57 ` David Gibson
2014-05-07 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-07 18:35 ` Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536A7CE0.6070005-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 18:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-07 19:07 ` Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536A8456.1040208-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 19:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-07 19:52 ` Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536A8F03.5070509-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 22:20 ` Bjorn Andersson
[not found] ` <CAJAp7OjNdmsomhm9jJ9-jP01z1Uz9snVgRCD07zOFdMYAhQ6Lw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 23:06 ` Eric Nelson
[not found] ` <536ABC89.8060301-Q5RJGjKts06CY9SHAMCTRUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 10:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-08 14:56 ` Eric Nelson
2014-05-08 11:55 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140508115532.GJ28159-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 15:06 ` Eric Nelson [this message]
2014-05-07 18:01 ` Jason Cooper
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