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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, Jon Loeliger <jdl@jdl.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/9] dt: deps: dependency based device creation
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 11:53:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53788329.5080008@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140516110008.E2AC9C403C2@trevor.secretlab.ca>

Am 16.05.2014 13:00, schrieb Grant Likely:
> On Wed, 14 May 2014 23:10:39 +0200, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>> Am 14.05.2014 22:06, schrieb Grant Likely:
>>> On Wed, 14 May 2014 16:49:05 +0200, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 14.05.2014 16:05, schrieb Grant Likely:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 May 2014 18:47:53 +0200, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hmm, I don't really care if that will be merged. I have no motivation to
>>>> fight with Linux kernel maintainers and I don't know if I will spend the
>>>> necessary time to do so.
>>>
>>> The people you need to convince are Rob, Greg, and me, and you've got my
>>> attention. If I'm convinced, then I can probably convince Greg also.
>>> You've got an interesting approach, and I hope you won't give up on it.
>>
>> Sorry, but that point of the view is already a problem. Why do I have to
>> convince you people?
>>
>> To summarize:
>>
>> Linux kernel maintainers
>>
>> - don't like code they haven't written theirself,
>> - don't like code which doesn't look like they have written it theirself,
>> - don't like ideas they haven't had themself,
>> - do feel good in their closed group they have formed,
>
> I'm sorry that you feel that way and that you don't want to continue
> with this. Best wishes.

Sorry to hit you with reality, but it just will not happen that I will 
try to convience any Linux kernel maintainer (anymore). It is their job 
to decide what they want and not mine to convince them. I offer code and 
arguments, but I will not offer my pride, ego or how you want to name 
it. If Linux kernel maintainers are unable to deal with the power 
they've got, that isn't my problem.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-18  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-12 16:47 [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT) Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] dt: deps: dependency based device creation Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:05   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]     ` <20140514140534.897F8C4153D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 14:49       ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:20         ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]         ` <53738261.4000000-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 20:06           ` Grant Likely
2014-05-14 21:10             ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]               ` <5373DBCF.1080503-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-16 11:00                 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-18  9:53                   ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2014-05-16 17:31                 ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-05-16 17:31               ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-05-16 17:31               ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-05-14 15:51     ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-17 14:24     ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-18 14:59       ` Grant Likely
2014-05-19  8:41         ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] dt: deps: dtc: Add option to print dependency graph as dot (Graphviz) Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] dt: deps: kirkwood: make it possible to use CONFIG_OF_DEPENDENCIES Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] dt: deps: dts: kirkwood: dockstar: add dependency ehci -> usb power regulator Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] dt: deps: omap2: make it possible to use CONFIG_OF_DEPENDENCIES Alexander Holler
2014-05-14  8:20 ` dt: deps: some tips about how to debug/evaluate this feature Alexander Holler
     [not found] ` <1399913280-6915-1-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 16:47   ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] dt: deps: dtc: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles Alexander Holler
     [not found]     ` <1399913280-6915-2-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-17 12:16       ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-19 12:35         ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-19 15:38           ` Jon Loeliger
2014-05-19 15:49           ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]             ` <CAJgR-BhRtc1XGqk-TVOrf2y_pYS+nratkPrf+OenP4SFcyK3ng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-19 17:26               ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]           ` <5379FAA5.10404-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27 20:02             ` Grant Likely
2014-05-27 20:31               ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47   ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] dt: deps: dtc: Add option to print initialization order Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 20:38     ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]       ` <CAJgR-BhnFngGr9qxa7NvF7GExiCAr1=HS16AtN20uj7nCmLcKQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 22:58         ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]           ` <537151FF.8070104-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13  8:54             ` [PATCH 0/3] add dependencies Alexander Holler
     [not found]               ` <1399971243-18153-1-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13  8:54                 ` [PATCH 1/3] deps: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles Alexander Holler
2014-05-13  8:54                 ` [PATCH 2/3] deps: Add option to print initialization order Alexander Holler
2014-05-13  8:54                 ` [PATCH 3/3] deps: Add option to print dependency graph as dot (Graphviz) Alexander Holler
2014-05-13 18:48             ` [PATCH] deps: introduce new (virtual) property no-dependencies Alexander Holler
     [not found]               ` <1400006923-7950-1-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14  1:55                 ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                   ` <5372CD15.5020001-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14  7:02                     ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47   ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] dt: deps: register drivers based on the initialization order based on DT Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:13     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20140514141300.67206C4153D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 14:58         ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]           ` <53738496.2070800-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 19:32             ` Grant Likely
2014-05-12 16:47   ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] dt: deps: WIP: well done drivers Alexander Holler
2014-05-13 15:40   ` [PATCH 10/9] dt: deps: fix bug not registering late drivers when OF_DEPENDENCIES is disabled Alexander Holler
2014-05-13 19:27   ` [RFC PATCH 11/9] dt: deps: dtc: introduce new (virtual) property no-dependencies Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:19   ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT) Grant Likely
2014-05-14 15:02     ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]       ` <53738580.7000902-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 16:05         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]           ` <CACxGe6s4px_9CNk3bkc1OF1KGZGYdyh4gE_VufCKU5dLFBG48g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 16:23             ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:30               ` Rob Herring
2014-05-14 17:45                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:53                   ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                     ` <5373ADB6.1070702-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 18:16                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 19:13                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 19:06                   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                     ` <CAL_JsqJ-=amrmRR9FfnOH1ELDQ1kTaG3e1n878mgpZP1FUw_jA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 19:24                       ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                         ` <5373C2F4.50803-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  1:46                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 23:00                       ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]     ` <20140514141914.446F7C4153D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 14:02       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]         ` <20140821140211.GD19293-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 19:19           ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]             ` <53F64624.5000403-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 13:19               ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-22 15:45                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-25  9:39                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 13:08                   ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]                     ` <E1XLu15-0002DP-6o-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 13:37                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20140825133714.GH4163-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 14:13                           ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]                             ` <E1XLv1z-0002Jv-VN-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 14:41                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26  8:42                           ` Grant Likely
2014-08-26  8:49                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26  9:42                               ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 10:11                                 ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-26 10:24                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 10:34                                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                     ` <20140827103432.64927C409CB-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 14:44                                       ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]                                         ` <20140827144403.GB13850-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 16:22                                           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                             ` <53FE05AE.9000406-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 16:30                                               ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-27 16:37                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-27 16:58                                                   ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                                   ` <53FE0966.5020206-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 17:52                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]                                                       ` <20140827175243.GJ13850-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27 18:14                                                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-28  6:50                                                   ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-28  9:23                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]                                                       ` <20140828092308.GA31111-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29  1:43                                                         ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                 ` <53FC566C.30904-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 10:25                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 10:44                                     ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                       ` <53FC6513.5040800-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 11:01                                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 11:08                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 11:23                                         ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                           ` <53FC6E4A.6030407-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 11:47                                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 12:00                                               ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                                 ` <53FC76E8.5050009-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 13:58                                                   ` Jon Loeliger
2014-08-26 14:17                                                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                     ` <E1XMHGc-0008TS-CQ-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27  7:16                                                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-27  9:26                                                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26  7:56                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26  8:51                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                         ` <20140826085128.958A9C40989-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  9:56                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 10:18                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26  9:54                   ` Mark Rutland

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