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From: Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Ezequiel Garcia
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	Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] OMAP: GPMC: Restructure OMAP GPMC driver (NAND) : DT binding change proposal
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 11:16:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537F03C8.3070101@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140522144600.GA1785-nAQHv47ARr+vIlHkl8J1cg@public.gmane.org>

Ezequiel & Javier,

On 05/22/2014 05:46 PM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> On 22 May 01:51 PM, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> On 21 May 02:20 PM, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For DT boot:
>>>>> - The GPMC controller node should have a chip select (CS) node for each used
>>>>>   chip select. The CS node must have a child device node for each device
>>>>>   attached to that chip select. Properties for that child are GPMC agnostic.
>>>>>
>>>>>   i.e.
>>>>>      gpmc {
>>>>>              cs0 {
>>>>>                      nand0 {
>>>>>                      }
>>>>>              };
>>>>>
>>>>>              cs1 {
>>>>>                      nor0 {
>>>>>                      }
>>>>>              }
>>>>>              ...
>>>>>      };
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While I agree that the GPMC driver is a bit messy, I'm not sure it's possible
>>>> to go through such a complete devicetree binding re-design (breaking backwards
>>>> compatibility) now that the binding is already in production.
>>>
>>> Why not? especially if the existing bindings are poorly dones. Is anyone using these
>>> bindings burning the DT into ROM and can't change it when they update the kernel?
>>>
>>
>> While I do agree that your DT bindings are much better than the
>> current ones, there is a policy that DT bindings are an external API
>> and once are released with a kernel are set in stone and can't be
>> changed.
>>
> 
> Exactly. The DT binding is considered an ABI. Thus, invariant across kernel
> versions. Users can't be coherced into a DTB update after a kernel update.
> 
> That said, I don't really care if you break compatilibity in this case.
> Rather, I'm suggesting that you make sure this change is going to be accepted
> upstream, before doing any more work. The DT maintainers are reluctant to do
> so.

Appreciate your concern.

Would be really nice if you can review patches 1-12. They have nothing to do with DT changes.
Thanks.

cheers,
-roger

> 
> On the other side, I guess you will also break bisectability while breaking
> backward compatibility. Doesn't sound very nice.
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-23  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-21 11:20 [RFC PATCH 00/16] OMAP: GPMC: Restructure OMAP GPMC driver (NAND) Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Add platform data Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Add gpmc timings and settings to " Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gmpc: add gpmc_generic_init() Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: use platform data to configure CS space and poplulate device Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Use low level read/write for context save/restore Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: add NAND specific setup Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] ARM: OMAP2+: nand: Update gpmc_nand_init() to use generic_gpmc_init() Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] mtd: nand: omap: Fix build warning Roger Quadros
2014-05-22  0:54   ` Jingoo Han
2014-05-22  8:17     ` Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] mtd: nand: omap: Move IRQ handling from GPMC to NAND driver Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] mtd: nand: omap: Move gpmc_update_nand_reg to nand driver Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:20 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] mtd: nand: omap: Move NAND write protect code from GPMC to NAND driver Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:21 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] mtd: nand: omap: Copy platform data parameters to omap_nand_info data Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:21 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] mtd: nand: omap: True device tree support Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:21 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] ARM: OMAP: gpmc: Update DT binding documentation Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:21 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] mtd: nand: omap: " Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 11:21 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] ARM: dts: omap3-beagle: Add NAND device Roger Quadros
2014-05-21 16:08 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] OMAP: GPMC: Restructure OMAP GPMC driver (NAND) Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found]   ` <20140521160818.GA1150-nAQHv47ARr+vIlHkl8J1cg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-22  8:12     ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] OMAP: GPMC: Restructure OMAP GPMC driver (NAND) : DT binding change proposal Roger Quadros
     [not found]       ` <537DB17A.6060608-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-22 11:51         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
     [not found]           ` <CABxcv=nbgGhVN+XYO8s=mYOpoLU9-kWuEqc+FLMaSbWS7BJNyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-22 14:46             ` Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found]               ` <20140522144600.GA1785-nAQHv47ARr+vIlHkl8J1cg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-23  8:16                 ` Roger Quadros [this message]
2014-05-23  9:40                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
     [not found]                     ` <CABxcv=kJA-kWpvcU0Jiy-gJYZP7W0kJjGtq3Fjr0VUBBC_znHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26  7:23                       ` Roger Quadros
2014-05-23 14:53                   ` Tony Lindgren
2014-05-26  7:33                     ` Roger Quadros

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