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From: Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Daney <ddaney.cavm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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	Rob Herring <robh+>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:10:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54341EA2.6010806@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54341BF1.9020001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 10/07/14 11:59, David Daney wrote:
> On 10/07/2014 09:31 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
>>> On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent
>>>> and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is
>>>> implemented
>>>> in Linux.
>>>
>>> So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should
>>> not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source
>>> repository.
>>>
>>> Well that's certainly a point of view.
>>>
>> Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But,
>> yes, I do
>> think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include
>> implementation
>> details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case
>> here).
>>
> 
> I fully agree.
> 
> Many device trees come from outside the kernel (i.e. they are supplied
> by the system boot environment).  Obviously these device trees cannot be
> changed at the whim of kernel developers, *and* it is perfectly
> reasonable to think that software other than the Linux kernel will run
> on this type of system too.
> 
> So yes, it is really true, device trees are not a Linux kernel private
> implementation detail, they are really an external ABI that, although
> documented in the kernel source tree, cannot be changed in incompatible
> ways as time progresses.

Ah. Existing thing with backstory among the in-crowd, so I'll assume
"git subtree" was previously suggested and you had that discussion
already and decided against it.

Carry on,

Rob
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-07 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-07  5:28 [PATCH 00/44] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 01/44] " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  7:46   ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-09 10:31   ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 15:38     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 11:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-09 13:25     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18  1:04   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18  6:53     ` Frans Klaver
     [not found]       ` <CAH6sp9P7rq2y_hiQPHKUP85CwnEmp87yC7Psh4=29h-pYnb_yw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 11:54         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18 12:14           ` Frans Klaver
2015-06-18 15:30     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18 21:40       ` Stephen Boyd
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 02/44] memory: emif: Use API function to determine poweroff capability Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 03/44] hibernate: Call have_kernel_poweroff instead of checking pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 23:41   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <1412659726-29957-4-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-09 10:32     ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 13:24       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 04/44] m68k: Replace mach_power_off with pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  8:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 10:59     ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]     ` <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 16:21       ` Rob Landley
2014-10-07 16:31         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:59           ` David Daney
     [not found]             ` <54341BF1.9020001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 17:10               ` Rob Landley [this message]
     [not found]         ` <543412F7.8040909-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 16:58           ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 10/44] mfd: axp20x: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 13/44] mfd: max8907: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 15/44] mfd: dm355evm_msp: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 24/44] power/reset: msm-powroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 25/44] power/reset: vexpress-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 26/44] x86: iris: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 31/44] arm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  8:04     ` Nicolas Ferre
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 32/44] arm64: psci: " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]     ` <1412659726-29957-33-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-09 10:41       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 33/44] avr32: atngw100: " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]     ` <1412659726-29957-34-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-01 10:16       ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-11-01 17:02         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 35/44] m68k: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  9:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 36/44] mips: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 41/44] x86: pmc_atom: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28   ` [PATCH 42/44] efi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 06/44] gpio-poweroff: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 11:03   ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]   ` <1412659726-29957-7-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 15:50     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 07/44] qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 11:02   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-07 15:57     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 15:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 08/44] kernel: Move pm_power_off to common code Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  8:32   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-07 13:58   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-07 23:42   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-08  7:25   ` Jesper Nilsson
2014-10-08 11:06   ` 回复: " Xuetao Guan 
2014-10-09 10:28   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-09 10:35   ` Vineet Gupta
2014-10-09 10:38   ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 13:14     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 20:24       ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-10 16:53         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-14  4:29   ` Hirokazu TAKATA
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 09/44] mfd: palmas: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 11/44] mfd: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 12/44] mfd: ab8500-sysctrl: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  8:00   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 10:36     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-09 10:49       ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 13:26         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 13:33           ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 15:45             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 15:54         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 14/44] mfd: tps80031: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 16/44] mfd: tps6586x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 17/44] mfd: tps65910: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 18/44] mfd: twl4030-power: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  7:52   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 19/44] ipmi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 20/44] power/reset: restart-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:06   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 21/44] power/reset: gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:00   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 22/44] power/reset: as3722-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 23/44] power/reset: qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:02   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 27/44] x86: apm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 28/44] x86: olpc: Register xo1 poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 29/44] staging: nvec: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 30/44] acpi: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 34/44] ia64: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 37/44] sh: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 38/44] x86: lguest: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 39/44] x86: ce4100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 40/44] x86: intel-mid: Drop registration of dummy poweroff handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 43/44] hwmon: (ab8500) Call kernel_power_off instead of pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07  5:28 ` [PATCH 44/44] kernel: Remove pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 23:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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