From: Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Daney <ddaney.cavm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Rob Herring <robh+>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:10:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54341EA2.6010806@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54341BF1.9020001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 10/07/14 11:59, David Daney wrote:
> On 10/07/2014 09:31 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
>>> On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent
>>>> and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is
>>>> implemented
>>>> in Linux.
>>>
>>> So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should
>>> not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source
>>> repository.
>>>
>>> Well that's certainly a point of view.
>>>
>> Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But,
>> yes, I do
>> think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include
>> implementation
>> details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case
>> here).
>>
>
> I fully agree.
>
> Many device trees come from outside the kernel (i.e. they are supplied
> by the system boot environment). Obviously these device trees cannot be
> changed at the whim of kernel developers, *and* it is perfectly
> reasonable to think that software other than the Linux kernel will run
> on this type of system too.
>
> So yes, it is really true, device trees are not a Linux kernel private
> implementation detail, they are really an external ABI that, although
> documented in the kernel source tree, cannot be changed in incompatible
> ways as time progresses.
Ah. Existing thing with backstory among the in-crowd, so I'll assume
"git subtree" was previously suggested and you had that discussion
already and decided against it.
Carry on,
Rob
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2014-10-07 5:28 [PATCH 00/44] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 01/44] " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 7:46 ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-09 10:31 ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 15:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 11:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-09 13:25 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18 1:04 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-06-18 6:53 ` Frans Klaver
[not found] ` <CAH6sp9P7rq2y_hiQPHKUP85CwnEmp87yC7Psh4=29h-pYnb_yw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 11:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18 12:14 ` Frans Klaver
2015-06-18 15:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-06-18 21:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 02/44] memory: emif: Use API function to determine poweroff capability Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 03/44] hibernate: Call have_kernel_poweroff instead of checking pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 23:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-4-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-09 10:32 ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 13:24 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 04/44] m68k: Replace mach_power_off with pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 8:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 10:59 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 16:21 ` Rob Landley
2014-10-07 16:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:59 ` David Daney
[not found] ` <54341BF1.9020001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 17:10 ` Rob Landley [this message]
[not found] ` <543412F7.8040909-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 16:58 ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 10/44] mfd: axp20x: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 13/44] mfd: max8907: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 15/44] mfd: dm355evm_msp: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 24/44] power/reset: msm-powroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 25/44] power/reset: vexpress-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 26/44] x86: iris: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 31/44] arm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 8:04 ` Nicolas Ferre
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 32/44] arm64: psci: " Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-33-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-09 10:41 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 33/44] avr32: atngw100: " Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-34-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-01 10:16 ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-11-01 17:02 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 35/44] m68k: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 9:19 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 36/44] mips: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 41/44] x86: pmc_atom: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 42/44] efi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 06/44] gpio-poweroff: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 11:03 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <1412659726-29957-7-git-send-email-linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-07 15:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 07/44] qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 11:02 ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-07 15:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 15:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 08/44] kernel: Move pm_power_off to common code Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 8:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-10-07 13:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-07 23:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-08 7:25 ` Jesper Nilsson
2014-10-08 11:06 ` 回复: " Xuetao Guan
2014-10-09 10:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-09 10:35 ` Vineet Gupta
2014-10-09 10:38 ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-09 13:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 20:24 ` Pavel Machek
2014-10-10 16:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-14 4:29 ` Hirokazu TAKATA
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 09/44] mfd: palmas: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 11/44] mfd: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 12/44] mfd: ab8500-sysctrl: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 8:00 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 10:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-09 10:49 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 13:26 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 13:33 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-09 15:45 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-09 15:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 14/44] mfd: tps80031: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 16/44] mfd: tps6586x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 17/44] mfd: tps65910: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 18/44] mfd: twl4030-power: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 7:52 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 19/44] ipmi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 20/44] power/reset: restart-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 21/44] power/reset: gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:00 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 22/44] power/reset: as3722-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 23/44] power/reset: qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 27/44] x86: apm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 28/44] x86: olpc: Register xo1 poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 29/44] staging: nvec: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 16:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 30/44] acpi: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 34/44] ia64: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 37/44] sh: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 38/44] x86: lguest: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 39/44] x86: ce4100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 40/44] x86: intel-mid: Drop registration of dummy poweroff handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 43/44] hwmon: (ab8500) Call kernel_power_off instead of pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 5:28 ` [PATCH 44/44] kernel: Remove pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-07 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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