From: Scott Branden <sbranden-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Florian Fainelli
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Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC defconfig changes
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:36:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54604EE1.4020303@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545FBF72.10202-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 14-11-09 11:24 AM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 11/08/14 21:45, Scott Branden wrote:
>> Hi Olof,
>>
>> Thanks for the comments. Please see my questions inline before we
>> determine what needs to be done for the defconfig patchset.
>>
>> On 14-11-08 04:13 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:50:09PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> The following changes since commit
>>>> f114040e3ea6e07372334ade75d1ee0775c355e1:
>>>>
>>>> Linux 3.18-rc1 (2014-10-19 18:08:38 -0700)
>>>>
>>>> are available in the git repository at:
>>>>
>>>> http://github.com/brcm/linux.git
>>>> tags/arm-soc/for-3.18/cygnus-defconfig-v9
>>>>
>>>> for you to fetch changes up to aa0204801143ee2d47e9e8dd5f39cdddd5613b4b:
>>>>
>>>> ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable Broadcom Cygnus (2014-10-30
>>>> 11:01:35 -0700)
>>>
>>> Hi Florian,
>>>
>>> Apologies for the delay in dealing with this pull request.
>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> This patchset contains initial support for Broadcom's Cygnus SoC
>>>> based on our
>>>> iProc architecture. Initial support is minimal and includes just the
>>>> mach
>>>> platform code, clock driver, and a basic device tree configuration.
>>>> Peripheral
>>>> drivers will be submitted soon, as will device tree configurations
>>>> for other
>>>> Cygnus board variants.
>>>>
>>>> These are the defconfig parts of the changes
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jonathan Richardson (1):
>>>> ARM: cygnus defconfig : Initial defconfig for Broadcom Cygnus SoC
>>>>
>>>> Ray Jui (1):
>>>> ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable Broadcom Cygnus
>>>>
>>>> Scott Branden (1):
>>>> ARM: bcm_defconfig/multi_v7_defconfig: remove one level of
>>>> menu from Kconfig
>>>>
>>>> arch/arm/configs/bcm_cygnus_defconfig | 237
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> arch/arm/configs/bcm_defconfig | 3 +-
>>>> arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig | 21 ++-
>>>
>>> Please send multi_v7_defconfig updates as a patch instead of including in
>>> a merge request. We ask for this because it's a file that many
>>> maintainers
>>> touch and it's easy that we get lots of conflicts otherwise.
>> OK, easy to do. Are there other files that we need to be aware of that
>> have these different requirements to merge as well?
>>
>>>
>>> As far as the bcm_cygnus_defconfig: Since new platforms are multiplatform
>>> enabled by default, we normally only prefer to have one defconfig per
>>> vendor.
>>> We've made exceptions in cases where the families are very different,
>>> but in
>>> general one defconfig per vendor should be sufficient.
>>>
>>> I.e. please enable the cygnus options in bcm_defconfig instead of
>>> adding a new
>>> one.
>>
>> Hi Olof, we can do this. But this makes bcm_defconfig unusable for us
>> in a product and is not a simple configuration to start from for our
>> customers. bcm_defconfig is a different SoC family based around the
>> Kona architecture. bcm_defconfig won't be what we build and test on
>> Cygnus at all. There is a script in scripts/kconfig/mergeconfig.pl that
>> allows you to merge config files together if you wish to have a kernel
>> support multiple SoCs. I see the same problem with multi_v7_defconfig
>> but even worse. It isn't a configuration we will ever use. Its only
>> purpose seems to be to enable our drivers in the that build just in case
>> somebody else happens to break something in the build.
>
> The defconfigs shipped in the mainline kernel only serve the purpose of
> building as many drivers/subsystems as possible and making sure they
> work well together from a general distribution perspective like
> Debian/Ubuntu/OE... That does not mean this is your configuration
> template for a downstream kernel with only a specific set of SoCs to
> support.
>
>>
>> As it stands, multi_v7_defconfig boots noticably slower than
>> bcm_cygnus_defconfig. And, the kernel is larger than we want. And, the
>> kconfigs are more complicated than we need for our boards. I also
>> notice some of the other SoCs families enabled automatically turn on a
>> lot of features we don't want on.
>
> Right, you are also very likely to see code blow away that has been
> enabled as part of the multi_v7_defconfig, but actually assumes that it
> will only run on a a particular family of SoCs, of course, all of this
> is good to fix to improve the multiplatform kernel, but does not
> necessarily impact you directly.
>
>>
>> Perhaps most of the multi_v7_defconfig merge issue you are facing could
>> be solved if you used the mergconfig.pl script to merge multiple
>> defconfigs together?
>>
>> What we wish to do is have a config file that only supports the Cygnus
>> family of SoCs. This allows others to easily see what applies to Cygnus
>> without being confused by other configurations. And, if somebody wishes
>> to use scripts/kconfig/mergeconfig.pl to merge different SoC support
>> together they are free to do so.
>>
>> So, we can do as you ask to get this upstreamed. But it really serves
>> little purpose for us other than verifying things build.
>>
>> Where do we upstream the defconfig that we actually use? Or is this
>> just not done and everyone keeps everything locally and has to continue
>> to maintain it there?
>
> FWIW, this is typically what we do for the brcmstb_defconfig, it is just
> present in our downstream kernel, but we do use the multi_v7_defconfig
> when testing upstream.
Puzzling. So dts files are allowed to be upstreamed per board, but the
reference kernel configuration that is actually tested extensively on
that board is not upstreamed?
> --
> Florian
>
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2014-10-30 19:50 [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC defconfig changes Florian Fainelli
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2014-10-30 19:50 ` [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC Device Tree changes Florian Fainelli
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2014-11-09 0:25 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-11-10 18:36 ` Olof Johansson
2014-10-30 19:50 ` [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC MAINTAINERS changes Florian Fainelli
2014-10-30 19:50 ` [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC platforms changes Florian Fainelli
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2014-11-09 0:28 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-11-09 0:33 ` Olof Johansson
2014-11-09 0:13 ` [GIT PULL] Broadcom Cygnus SoC defconfig changes Olof Johansson
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2014-11-09 5:45 ` Scott Branden
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2014-11-09 19:24 ` Florian Fainelli
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2014-11-10 5:36 ` Scott Branden [this message]
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2014-11-10 6:21 ` Olof Johansson
2014-11-12 6:29 ` Florian Fainelli
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