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From: keita kobayashi <keita.kobayashi.ym@renesas.com>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	"horms@verge.net.au" <horms@verge.net.au>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"linux-sh@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH v2 3/5] devicetree: bindings: Add new cpuidle enable method for Renesas R-car SoCs
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:39:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5534AD37.20705@renesas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150417143723.GC2347@red-moon>

Hi Magnus, Mark, Lorenzo

Thank you for your comment.

(2015/04/17 23:37), Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 02:11:24PM +0100, Magnus Damm wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:35:38AM +0100, Keita Kobayashi wrote:
>>>> This patch add the ARM CPUs Device Tree binding to document a new
>>>> enable method of Renesas cpuidle.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Keita Kobayashi <keita.kobayashi.ym@renesas.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt | 1 +
>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>>>> index 8b9e0a9..663ee11 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>>>> @@ -196,6 +196,7 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>>>                           "qcom,gcc-msm8660"
>>>>                           "qcom,kpss-acc-v1"
>>>>                           "qcom,kpss-acc-v2"
>>>> +                         "renesas,rcar-idle"
>>>
>>> The enable-method is about how to bring the CPU up (and potentially
>>> implies other things, like how to take it down again).
>>
>> Thanks for your clarification. I now understand that this is related
>> to SMP boot and CPU Hotplug.
>>
>>> These is no code in this series to that effect, no semantics are
>>> provided, and the name implies this is idle-specific.
>>>
>>> So this doesn't look right, and makes no sense to me.
>>
>> Ok, I somehow (incorrectly?) assumed that the following line in patch
>> 2/5* tied into this:
>> +CPUIDLE_METHOD_OF_DECLARE(rcar, "renesas,rcar-idle", &rcar_cpuidle_ops);
>>
>> [*] [RFC/PATCH v2 2/5] ARM: shmobile: Add cpuidle_ops for R-Car cpuidle
>>
>> But if it is unrelated it should of course be dropped or reworked.
> 
> It is related, but Mark's remark is correct. We have to keep in mind
> that an enable-method defines how a CPU is powered {up/down} and
> also suspended (quiesced through idle).
> 
> It has to be defined through proper bindings and related code, adding a
> random compatible string for the sake of matching does not cut it,
> that is not acceptable and I stated it from the beginning.
> 
> So, to make it clear, an enable-method defines CPU operations as a
> whole, cpu init, power{up/down} and suspend.
> 
> It must be documented with proper bindings that defines compatible string and
> related properties.
> 
> The sooner we incorporate the CPUidle ops into SMP ops the better to
> prevent this abuse from happening, an enable-method encompasses SMP
> ops and CPUidle ops, actually they must be merged because they represent
> the enable-method implementation as a whole.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Lorenzo


I will rename "renesas,rcar-idle" in the next patch.

Regards.

Keita Kobayashi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-20  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 10:35 [RFC/PATCH v2 0/5] Add cpuidle support for r8a7791 Keita Kobayashi
2015-04-16 10:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 1/5] ARM: cpuidle: Add cpuidle support for R-Car Gen2 series Keita Kobayashi
2015-04-17 12:14   ` Magnus Damm
2015-04-20  6:54     ` keita kobayashi
2015-04-16 10:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 2/5] ARM: shmobile: Add cpuidle_ops for R-Car cpuidle Keita Kobayashi
2015-04-16 10:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 3/5] devicetree: bindings: Add new cpuidle enable method for Renesas R-car SoCs Keita Kobayashi
     [not found]   ` <1429180540-5692-4-git-send-email-keita.kobayashi.ym-zM6kxYcvzFBBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 12:26     ` Magnus Damm
2015-04-17 12:46   ` Mark Rutland
2015-04-17 13:11     ` Magnus Damm
     [not found]       ` <CANqRtoTaGc7QCJAVj8Jhpo5HgbwyfiRQZz5j0zBkE1cBkDZAzQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 14:37         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-04-20  7:39           ` keita kobayashi [this message]
2015-04-21 10:55             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-04-16 10:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 4/5] ARM: shmobile: dtsi: Add cpuidle parameters into each cpu for r8a7791 Keita Kobayashi
2015-04-16 10:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 5/5] ARM: shmobile: Enable Renesas R-Car cpuidle for shmobile_defconfig Keita Kobayashi
2015-04-17  8:19 ` [RFC/PATCH v2 0/5] Add cpuidle support for r8a7791 Simon Horman

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