From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/3] tty slave device support - version 3.
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 11:51:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554B8A14.2080904@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9EF54D80-F634-4D59-BFD9-FC79FCFE06DE@goldelico.com>
On 05/07/2015 11:34 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Am 07.05.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>:
>> On 05/07/2015 08:46 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Both devicetree and tty/serial can already represent independent control;
>> what is proposed is a way to express dependent control, and in all cases,
>> that control stems directly from either the UART state itself or via
>> commands sent over that interface.
>
> Yes. This is why I propose that the tty/uart driver can send an internal notification
> to the device driver. And the device driver can register to be notified by the UART
> that is identified by the phandle of the slave DT entry.
I've not seen any code with your proposal, so that makes it impossible to
compare competing solutions.
>> Any target not requiring UART involvement doesn't (and probably, shouldn't)
>> be expressed as a slave device.
>
> IMHO it is not obligatory to represent the direction of control by a parent>child
> relation in DT. DT just needs to describe that there is a relation/connection.
Devicetree usage in the linux kernel is for representing the host view, not an
abstract machine. I have yet to see an example of a proposed tty slave where the
host interface is not a UART.
> The driver code already must “know” the direction of notifications.
>
> BTW, there can even be control in reverse direction in some cases. E.g. the slave
> driver wants to automatically set the baud rate of the uart, i.e. the slave controls
> the uart on /dev/tty side.
>
> If I have monitored some other discussion right, this is exactly done by a Codec
> driver to tell its mcbsp counterpart about clock rates and data formats it should
> expect. Maybe this is the reason why McBSP use (or are just happy with) the
> phandle approach.
Parameters are not control.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-07 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 5:58 [PATCH 0/3] tty slave device support - version 3 NeilBrown
2015-03-18 5:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] tty/slaves: add a driver to power on/off UART attached devices NeilBrown
[not found] ` <20150318055831.21025.33670.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 7:54 ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <C53A3E5D-5AEA-4F0F-88A9-F9BC8CB0D0D6-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 8:54 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-20 9:34 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <14FB51CF-9568-4BF4-B917-2C019D992FDB-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 19:50 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-20 23:31 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-24 17:58 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-25 1:45 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-25 7:59 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-25 15:21 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-25 16:44 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-26 18:08 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-27 9:22 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-27 16:31 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-27 17:11 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-04-27 20:35 ` Pavel Machek
2015-04-29 6:56 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-25 20:53 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-25 21:25 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <1F3B5E32-1330-457C-AE25-791319293C38-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-26 5:56 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-26 6:44 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <365B2C25-1782-4ADE-B620-190A4CC5E8E3-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-04 7:52 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-25 20:42 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-25 21:22 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-18 5:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] TTY: use class_find_device to find port in uart_suspend/resume NeilBrown
[not found] ` <20150318055831.21025.27864.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 16:20 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-29 21:49 ` [Gta04-owner] " NeilBrown
2015-03-18 5:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] TTY: add support for tty_slave devices NeilBrown
2015-03-18 9:11 ` Paul Bolle
2015-03-22 3:32 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-20 19:41 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-22 3:42 ` [Gta04-owner] " NeilBrown
[not found] ` <20150322144209.14abc603-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-22 7:58 ` Pavel Machek
2015-03-24 10:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2015-03-30 23:45 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-25 16:30 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-25 21:17 ` [Gta04-owner] " NeilBrown
2015-03-27 11:09 ` Peter Hurley
2015-03-31 0:33 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-20 7:54 ` [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/3] tty slave device support - version 3 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <80D7E742-4633-4CCD-B754-221387D82922-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 8:43 ` NeilBrown
2015-03-20 8:54 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-20 13:08 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-20 13:57 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <72268D51-F993-497A-B4F9-707C8DB7155C-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 17:14 ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-20 19:31 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20150318055437.21025.13990.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 19:54 ` Peter Hurley
2015-05-05 20:46 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <55492001.30806-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 5:19 ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-06 11:10 ` Peter Hurley
[not found] ` <DE60E7AA-1BF4-4A68-9638-E09F85FD5C72-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 9:27 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-06 11:50 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-06 12:05 ` Peter Hurley
2015-05-06 12:27 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-06 12:36 ` Mark Rutland
2015-05-06 13:28 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-06 14:15 ` Mark Rutland
2015-05-06 16:09 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-06 17:18 ` Mark Rutland
2015-05-07 12:46 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-07 14:30 ` Peter Hurley
2015-05-07 15:11 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-07 16:18 ` Peter Hurley
2015-05-07 16:57 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <B4D487C5-C260-497B-A441-6C381D53616C-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-07 14:56 ` Peter Hurley
[not found] ` <554B7D33.602-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-07 15:34 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-07 15:51 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-05-07 16:46 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-05-13 8:09 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-06-03 11:49 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] UART slave device support Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <56C579D3-E8F8-4B5A-B6E8-993B113F3461-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <463356C5-E3C6-432C-A1C5-71F0287F1FEE@goldelico.com>
2015-06-03 12:09 ` [Gta04-owner] [PATCH RFC 3/3] misc: Add w2g0004 gps receiver driver Christ van Willegen
2015-05-07 15:37 ` [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/3] tty slave device support - version 3 Peter Hurley
[not found] ` <A2594559-CA92-40C2-A06A-AC2483E85CB1-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 14:28 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-06 16:12 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <C68A105A-7147-4143-9B91-1A239726A780-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-06 18:53 ` Belisko Marek
2015-06-06 18:55 ` Belisko Marek
2015-05-07 15:48 ` Rob Herring
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